Ep. 106 - Intuition vs. Spirit: How to tell the Difference (Psychic Medium Explains)

How do you know if what you're feeling is your own intuition or spirit communication? In this episode of the Mormon to Medium podcast, psychic medium Nannette Wride breaks down the real difference between gut instinct and messages from your spirit guides, including a terrifying true story about the night spirit intervened to save a child's life.

Nannette and Brad dive into psychic development, energy healing, and how trauma gets stored and in the body blocking natural energy flow (what Nannette calls "beaver dams"). You'll learn how the solar plexus chakra connects to intuition, why piloerection (goosebumps) can signal an outside spiritual presence, and how somatic trauma release and energy work complement traditional therapy.

Topics covered in this episode:

• Intuition vs. spirit communication: how to tell them apart
• Signs spirit is trying to reach you (goosebumps, cold spots, an inner voice)
• How trauma is stored in the body and released through energy healing
• The connection between chakras, gut instinct, and spiritual guidance
• Religious trauma, leaving the Mormon church, and healing generational beliefs
• How psychic mediums develop their gifts and intuition over time
• Combining energy work with talk therapy for full mind-body-soul healing

Whether you're curious about psychic development, spiritual awakening, energy healing, or simply learning to trust your gut, this episode offers practical tools for recognizing your own intuition and deepening your spiritual connection.

Connect with Nannette at zenergysage.com or on social media for upcoming events and one-on-one mentoring in psychic medium training.

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Nannette 0:01

Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll talk about spirituality, the paranormal religion, and my journey going from Mormon to medium. I'm Nanette Wride. Thanks for listening. Now let's go have some fun. Welcome to the Mormon to Median podcast. We are super excited to talk to you today, and I believe Brad-

Brad 0:35

will be your guide Do you know what? I, I think you're only excited- Mm-hmm to just let everyone know, "Hey, Nan won the bet." And I will throw that out there from last episode. I was

Nannette 0:46

A dick.

Brad 0:47

Wow. Wow, that escalated quickly. No, I, I was wrong. I don't think I was a dick. Wow.

Nannette 0:54

a dick A lady never says her age, Brad. Again, you did.

Brad 0:57

lady even said she would be your bride. I, and you didn't. Um- You didn't, you did

Nannette 0:59

I won 100 bucks just for the record.

Brad 1:02

to be fair, I beeped it out. No one knows unless you've told them

Nannette 1:06

I have not told them unless you're really close to me and then you really know my age. Yeah.

Brad 1:11

you're really close to me, and then you really know when you're being a douche. Yeah, so I, I, uh, I was wrong, and I apologize for my inadvertent gaslighting. I could swear I didn't say it, but yeah, I need to pay a little bit more attention to the words that come out of my mouth. I am so sorry

Nannette 1:27

It's okay, I like the 100 bucks. Yeah. It's cool, and I love being right. Yes,

Brad 1:32

Yes, you do. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's all right. I guess we all like being right once in a while. Can I have a turn?

Nannette 1:38

you do. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's okay. 'Cause we all like being right. Can I have a turn? Sure, I'll try to let you be right. Thank you. So hey, what are we talking about today?

Brad 1:42

Thank you. So hey, what are we talking about today?

Nannette 1:47

You know what? I've had, um, some clients ask a couple questions, and so I thought that we would address those questions today and kind of s- just put them out there for other people that might be wondering the same things.

Brad 1:58

Perfect. Well, let's have it. Wait a minute. Is this questions that I can help with, or are these just Nan specific?

Nannette 2:06

No, there are questions you can help with. You're married to Nan, and you live this life too, and you're just as gifted as I am. So I'd love to hear your input about it. I mean, yeah, they're good questions.

Brad 2:15

All right, let's roll

Nannette 2:17

Okay, so the first question that I keep getting over and over and over, um, are by people that are interested in being, mentored by me and doing one-on-one training, for psychic medium stuff, and they want to know the difference between your intuition and spirit talking to you. How do they differentiate between those two?

Brad 2:38

Okay. So how do you differentiate? Because for me, I think, well, if my intuition is the same thing as spirit, or if I get that hint of, "Hey, something's up," it kind of just all feels the same

Nannette 2:53

It feels the same to you?

Brad 2:55

Yeah, I don't know how it would be different. So help me understand how it might be different

Nannette 2:59

Does, does your intuition give you philoerection, Brad?

Brad 3:02

Um, at times? No.

Nannette 3:03

No. That would be spirit, not intuition

Brad 3:07

don't know. I- 'cause I've had incidents where something's going on and you get that feeling on the back of your neck that, "Hey, this is, this is off. This is wrong." I've always called that intuition. So are you saying that that's not ever been intuition, that's been spirit or an outside influence?

Nannette 3:22

gonna be spirit

Brad 3:24

No, that would be spirit. So how do you know when it's something coming from your own intuition and your own ability to recognize that there's something wrong?

Nannette 3:31

Um, so your intuition actually comes from your solar plexus chakra. So that's right where your stomach is, you know, where your ribcage meets. And, um, that is your place of personal power. It's also your gut instinct and your intuition. So, and remember, the chakras are spinning plates, so they run into each other. So your solar plexus, um, you know, bumps into your heart chakra, and it also, you know, gets energy from the sacral chakra, who gets energy from the root chakra. You following, right? So they... It runs all into each other, kind of bleeds together like runny mascara, right? When you don't have a beaver dam. And remember, a beaver dam's always gonna be a trauma, an old belief system, or a trapped emotion, okay? And the old belief system can be generational. But those are beaver dams. Always, always, always in the energy fields. So what an intuition is, is it's something that comes from the inside of you. It's part of who you are as a spirit, and, it'll just be like a knowing or just this gut feeling, um, that's going on. But when spirit talks to you, it's an outside source affecting you. So for example, when we were in Astoria, Oregon, remember when we went on the, the ghost hunt there? Mm-hmm. We kept getting piloerection. We kept feeling cold spots. Um-

Brad 4:51

for those of you who haven't listened to the show before, philoerection is basically goosebumps. Yeah. It's when, when the s- the hair on your arm or your neck or somewhere on your body stands up

Nannette 5:00

Or like your whole body when the hair on your head all the way down to your toes is just standing straight up. That is from an outside source, and so you have to start to pay attention and realize, "That's not coming from the inside of me. This is coming from somewhere

Brad 5:14

So essentially, if I'm getting a feeling on something that does not jive with my past experience or knowledge, then that's something from spirit?

Nannette 5:25

Yes. Yeah, so you could be driving along, you know, and, thinking about what you're gonna make for

Brad 5:31

You guys are missing this because Nann is doing driving the car

Nannette 5:35

So

Brad 5:35

with her hands. She's like, "You're driving along," and her hands are just going like she's turning a steering wheel.

Nannette 5:46

So you're driving along and her hands are just going like she's- turning the steering wheel. But you could be thinking about, you know, what you're gonna make for dinner or, you know, what you're gonna do with your grandkids or a million different other things, and then all of a sudden you'll get this outside feeling or outside information that's not you thinking that just pops in.

Brad 6:01

Outside information that's not you thinking Like s- like slow down right now before you hit a kid

Nannette 6:03

or you're gonna hit a kid." Or, you know, "Veer to the right now." And you just do it, and then all of a sudden you almost hit a kid.

Brad 6:08

on that one SR

Nannette 6:09

that 1SR road, yeah, in the middle of the night in the dark. Yep. Yeah, that one. Yeah, so that's spirit intervening and coming in. Um, usually it's gonna be your spirit guides because they're with you all the time.

Brad 6:22

Well, let's go back to that experience. I want you to share that experience that we just brought up, because nobody understands what we're talking about right now. They're like, "What? What is this?"

Nannette 6:31

What? They haven't listened to that episode? Rude.

Brad 6:34

Well, let's catch 'em up

Nannette 6:35

Okay, we'll catch you up. So, um, I had been training, um, for days and days and days, at, in energy classes, a lot of energy classes, and, um, it was like 16 hours a day. Anyways, it was really late at night, like 10:30 at night, and I was

Brad 6:51

So late

Nannette 6:52

back. Well, it is for me, okay? I was headed back to, my house and, I lived out in the country, so there's no streetlights. It's completely blacked out out there. You know, lots of farmland, um, things like that. And as I came around, I call it the 1 SR Road, and Brad knows because he was a state trooper and he calls it SR. I don't even know what the flip it is.

Brad 7:17

road it is.

Nannette 7:18

What, what road is that?

Brad 7:19

Um, I don't even remember now

Nannette 7:22

You don't remember? Hopefully it'll pop in. It- anyways, he, he always knows when I call it the SR road. He knows exactly which road it is that I'm talking about. But, um, anyways, I, I come around a little bit of a bend and I see a kid down in, like, in against a fence, um, off to the right. And I'm headed west. Okay? And then all of a sudden, something from outside of me

Brad 7:49

outside of me

Nannette 7:51

says very loudly, "Brake and, and pull right now." And, um, it still makes me wanna cry 'cause it was terrifying. Sorry.

Brad 8:03

You're good. Dude, I have-

Nannette 8:04

Do you I have some trauma about it.

Brad 8:07

trauma about it. It seems like you need a

Nannette 8:08

Anyways, a- a- and I have, I've had lots of balances about it, but you never, you ne- never get used to almost killing somebody. Um, so this kid had stood in front of my car. So he had hurried and run from the right and run, across into the road and was standing in front of my car and wanted to be hit by the car, and the Spirit told me to hurry and brake and pull to the right so that I missed him, and he rolled up the side of my driver's side car. It was a brand-new car. It was terrifying. Absolutely terrifying

Brad 8:40

Yeah. Well, and typically you would react by hitting the brakes and swerving left to go the opposite way of where this person was. So pretty crazy that you got that inspiration to, "Oh, hey, I need to go right."

Nannette 8:52

Oh, it, it, and it wasn't even inspiration. It was a voice and it was loud, and I just, I, I'm a really good minder. I always say that. Um, and so I just hurried and did it. I didn't even realize why I was doing it other than I was told to do it. And then it all made sense when I saw what he hit and he rolled up. Like, he, he, um, dented the side and dented my door and that's, that's when I didn't see him anymore because it was so dark by the time he got to the driver's side window. I, I didn't see him anymore so I didn't know if he was laying in the middle of the road or what, but what he had tried to do is the car that came behind me, I was clear down the road screaming, um, he, he stood in front of them too so I knew he was alive. But he ended up, going to the hospital and, and going to the psych ward and all the

Brad 9:39

getting the help he needed And he got the help he needed,

Nannette 9:40

needed and he got the help that he needed,

Brad 9:41

But yeah, Nan called me up and said, "Hey, I just got h- I just about hit a kid on that one SR road." It was SR 77. But, uh, that's why it's that one SR road. But that's a really good example of listening to your guides and listening to that, that outside voice, right? So do you have a similar example of following your intuition?

Nannette 10:04

Oh, lots of, lots of times. So, so many times. For example, um, with the COVID shot, when it came along, I knew with, from my intuition, I knew something was wrong. Something's wrong with this whole thing. It felt like nails on a chalkboard to my soul. Like, remember when we were dating and I kept going to sacrament meeting over and over and over, and I kept telling you it felt like a sandpaper suit on me

Brad 10:30

And for those who don't know, sacrament meeting is the main church meeting for the, the Mormon Church

Nannette 10:36

Right. Um, but it was like my- Can I say Mormon? Yeah.

Brad 10:40

can I say Mormon? Yeah. Okay. You can count on it. Are they gonna sue us like they did John Dehlin? Good

Nannette 10:44

Bringing it up just like

Brad 10:45

Okay.

Nannette 10:46

they did John De Linn. Good luck. Okay. Right?

Brad 10:47

Okay. Anyway, I digress. So you would go to sacrament meeting

Nannette 10:51

I digress. So you would go to sacrament meeting- It just felt like a sandpaper suit. So again, my intuition was like, "You're not supposed to be here. Don't... You're not supposed to be here. This doesn't jive with who you are." It wasn't an outside source telling me anything. It was my soul telling me, "This isn't, this isn't us. Don't, don't do this." And I, and I get that a lot. Um, and it's very different. It's funny 'cause the Mormon Church teaches, you know, that you have a still, small voice, but it, that still, small voice spirit comes through at, like a whisper and you have to really, really listen. Almost like, like I'll take you through an exercise, okay? If you say, say apple outs- out loud. Apple. Mkay. Now I want you to, to close your eyes.

Brad 11:33

I thought you were gonna tell me now hold your tongue and say it. Do you remember doing that when you were in elementary school?

Nannette 11:40

I thought you were gonna tell me now hold your tongue and say it. Do you remember doing that when we were in elementary school? Yes. Oh my gosh, yes. You just brought such memories back.

Brad 11:43

gosh. You just, you just brought such memories back.

Nannette 11:44

Or it was like, down your shirt and spell attic.

Brad 11:46

I don't understand that one

Nannette 11:47

Look down your shirt, Brad, and spell attic A-T-T-I-C.

Brad 11:52

A-T-T I see. Aha.

Nannette 11:56

The 14-year-old finally gets it. There's two

Brad 11:59

There's two of them. Oh my gosh. I, I literally, I just sat and spelled it. I'm like, "What? I, I don't, I don't..." Okay, thank you.

Nannette 12:09

Thank you And, and that's what happens when you're married to an Aries. She rubs off a little bit. Usually it's me that doesn't get it, so that's funny.

Brad 12:16

is weird. What's wrong with me?

Nannette 12:20

That is weird. What's

Brad 12:21

I'm worried now. I, I must need some food. I, I've gotta go get dinner

Nannette 12:25

wrong with you? Do you want me to list the things? Yeah, I, I want some food. I, I could do a dinner. Yeah, you do need dinner. Navajo tacos for us. Sounds awesome.

Brad 12:30

So anyway, that was a, a feeling of, "Hey, that's, that's my own intuition. That's a problem," because it came from within you. Yes.

Nannette 12:38

Yes. Yeah

Brad 12:40

Now tell me about the correlation for example, the Mormon Holy Ghost versus intuition versus- Well, I was-

Nannette 12:48

I was just, I was just having you do a little exercise, remember? I do. Um, so I'm, I'm gonna have you

Brad 12:54

Say Apple

Nannette 12:55

Yeah, you said apple. Now I want you to close your eyes, take a deep breath in and blow out. Don't blow it in the mic. and now say apple in your head Can you still hear apple? Yes.

Brad 13:10

Yes.

Nannette 13:10

Okay. That second one, when you hear apple in your head, is how spirit sounds when it's talking to you, but it's not you saying it.

Brad 13:19

it Gotcha

Nannette 13:20

It's something else. So when I-

Brad 13:22

what is it when I hear, "Hey, dumbass"? What

Nannette 13:26

really hear that? Don't you?

Brad 13:27

Don't

Nannette 13:28

It's usually me. That

Brad 13:33

"Hey, dumbass. What are you doing now?" I can just h- I, I can see, like, my guardian angels and spirit team just rolling their eyes like, "You dumbass. What in the world are you thinking? Are you kidding me?

Nannette 13:46

don't do, you don't do dumb shit, so I, I don't know. Like, your, your motto for this life, and it needs to be on your headstone, is don't do stupid shit. Like, you don't. You absolutely don't. You're funny. But I, no, I, I think that your spirit guides are like a bunch of rockers that sit back there, and a couple of them are, like, drinking a, a, a beer and, you know. Yeah, they're, they're told, "Chill."

Brad 14:09

So you're saying my spirit guide team is a bunch of stoners?

Nannette 14:12

Oh, yeah. No, I think that there are a bunch of rockers. I really do. If, if you don't know this about Brad, he, he loves every genre of music, and his life... Oh, by the way, I gotta tell you, his life is a literal mu- musical, okay? Oh, my God. So yesterday, yesterday, where, where did you go? Oh, he went to go give blood. Okay, so he has alien blood. So he goes and he gives alien blood,

Brad 14:38

O negative. He gives- I'm a universal donor. I help lots of

Nannette 14:43

So unvaxxed and O negative, so he's got perfect blood, okay? Um, anyways, he had called me, and then he had forgotten to hang up the phone. No, he hung up the phone, but then he butt-dialed me. That's what it was. And so I answered back, but then he didn't realize he had butt-dialed me. And so he's literally talking to people, um, road raging in song. And he didn't believe me when he got home, but I still had my phone on sitting there, and he would be talking to me, and it's coming through on the phone. I said, "You've been singing this whole way back." And he goes, "How do you know?" And I'm like, "Because I've been listening to you."

Brad 15:18

I've been listening

Nannette 15:19

And he didn't even know. So

Brad 15:21

So there's a glimpse into my private

Nannette 15:23

my private life. That I didn't even

Brad 15:25

My, life is a musical. It is a musical.

Nannette 15:27

My life is a musical. It is a musical. Judge me for your own time.

Brad 15:28

Judge me on your own time

Nannette 15:34

It's so funny.

Brad 15:36

The, everyone does that, right?

Nannette 15:38

Everyone says that, right? Brad, you don't even sing in the shower like that

Brad 15:41

don't even see in the show how- Oh my God

Nannette 15:41

He's like, "This idiot just passed me. Oh my gosh, it's..."

Brad 15:47

Whatever.

Nannette 15:50

you're just like... He's just making shit up. It was so funny

Brad 15:53

makes me laugh. I j- It's so funny. S- so you're saying I just need to be mic'd all the time?

Nannette 15:55

You need a reality show. That's what I'm thinking.

Brad 15:58

Oh my gosh, you're, you're the reality

Nannette 16:01

You're, you're the reality. Whatever. I love you though.

Brad 16:03

I know.

Nannette 16:04

I know.

Brad 16:05

I know First you call me out for being wrong, then you have to tell everyone my deep, dark secret that I live in a musical

Nannette 16:13

I told you I had a list.

Brad 16:14

You have a list? Is that what's wrong or is that what's wonderful about me? Both. Thank

Nannette 16:20

you. have a list. Is that what's wrong or right? One- Both. Thank you. You're get some kind of twisted though.

Brad 16:27

I prefer to call it fabulous.

Nannette 16:29

it fabulous. Yes, you do.

Brad 16:34

So, so yeah, a lo- you've had a lot of people asking you about how to tell the difference, and so- Yeah there it is.

Nannette 16:39

is. There it is. Oop, there it

Brad 16:42

There it is. Thank you for that.

Nannette 16:43

it.

Brad 16:43

You're welcome. Yeah, I appreciate it. So you also mentioned, uh, before we even started, that you'd had a lot of people talking to you about processing trauma as well. Mm-hmm. I- is that something that is related to listening to, your spirit team or your intuition, do you think?

Nannette 17:02

I'm sure. I'm sure that they'll protect you. I mean, just like the brain protects you but, um, I help people with traumas. Like I said, it's a beaver dam, right? Um, all the time. Um, and, and the body and the energy holds trauma. So think about it. If you are experiencing a trauma, y- you're gonna go into fight or flight, right?

Brad 17:23

Or freeze.

Nannette 17:24

Or f- or freeze. So what does that mean?

Brad 17:27

Fight, flight, or freeze.

Nannette 17:28

does that mean? What does the body do? What does the body do? What's the first muscles that kick in when you go into fight, flight, or freeze?

Brad 17:37

muscles that kick in when you go into fight, flight, or freeze? Well, your core, your core kicks in and you get tense. Your jaws tense up. Um, you hold everything tight and close

Nannette 17:43

Right. So if you experience, let's say you experience a trauma when you're a, a child, say threes or three years old um are you gonna hold that trauma in your muscles and in your energy?

Brad 17:56

Well, because I know you, yes. I, I, the body, the body keeps score, right? We've talked about that book and that concept

Nannette 18:04

the score. That concept. Yeah. So, so you'll hold it until the body feels safe to release it, and a lot of times the body won't feel safe, and so it'll cause dis-ease. So you'll start to get sick. People have, like, low back issues because we hold it, a lot of it in our hips because we have, um, all of those fight or flight muscles that are in our hips, like our quads and our hamstrings and our gluteus medius. So all of our butt muscles, you know, all of our leg muscles, and all those really deep muscles that... Like, your psoas muscle that's clear inside your hip. And they can be very, very painful, um, if you're holding it for very long. So I, I wouldn't say I like to do this, but I watch how people walk, especially when we were at, um, to dinner the other night. We went to a restaurant that's by the mall, uh, or in the mall actually, and I watched people walk, and I'm like, "Oh, this is, this is this or this." I can see the muscles that aren't firing. And so by knowing those muscles and knowing the beaver dam that, um, causes the muscles not to fire, I can pretty much tell you what's going on with the person or what's happened in their life, which is really, really cool 'cause it's the language of the body.

Brad 19:12

So quick question with that. A lot of people, when they have a serious trauma, the mind and body will basically erase that from their memory.

Nannette 19:22

The body won't, the mind will

Brad 19:24

So it gets erased though, and-

Nannette 19:27

Well, it gets blocked yeah

Brad 19:29

So when that happens, is that something that you can help correct as well? Because a lot of people will have, say, childhood trauma, and they can't remember parts of their childhood, or religious trauma, and they go into a church or the temple and go, "I have no idea what I just heard or saw." Is that something that working through these muscle and energy beaver dams can help bring back?

Nannette 19:54

Um, it depends on how traumatic it is. See, the brain is all-knowing, and the body is very, very, very smart, and it will shut down systems to keep you safe and alive. That's, that's its job is those two things, keep you safe and keep you alive. And, we'll never do a balance, an energy balance, that doesn't still continue to do those things. So things will bubble up that's safe to heal now when we're doing it, and sometimes it takes a couple of baby steps to get in there. But yes and no. I've had a, a lot of clients that don't remember their childhood at all. At all. But their body remembers, and their energy remembers, and so when we start to talk about it and they start to feel a little bit, they get glimpses. But they might not get all of it because it would just be too much. Do you know what I mean? It, it's, it's crazy what people have gone through, and it's heartbreaking, the things that they've had to, uh, block, the brain has had to block in order t- to keep them safe. So we can process it in the energy and in the body while you see just glimpses and you just release it.

Brad 21:03

Yeah. Well, and I guess that makes sense because balances that you've done for me, and you've said, "Okay, um, the word is, you know, traumatic at 16, and it's a male energy. Do you know what this is?" Uh, you're right 'cause I don't always know what it is, but sometimes it'll come to me later. I'm like, "Oh, shit, she's talking about this." Right. Yeah.

Nannette 21:29

Right, so the brain will keep processing and try to put things together when it's processing things out. So you always have to remember, you have to heal body, mind, and soul. And so I'm working with the spirit or your energy, right? So I'm doing the soul part, um, with you, and I'm releasing those beautiful muscles that have been holding that tense, traumatic energy for forever, and I, I release them so that they can take a big, deep breath and be like, "Okay, I'm safe. I can do this." And then you're the one that, for weeks after a balance, will process in the brain and that you just have to remember, "I'm releasing." And sometimes it'll bring up emotions. Sometimes it'll... You know, you'll wanna punch something or cry or, or scream or whatever, but you do it, and then you wad it up and give it back to the universe, um, and 'cause you're releasing, right? And once you release it, um, you don't have to address it again. But sometimes we wanna hold onto those things, and so we keep addressing it until you're, you can completely release it. So the body, like I said, is, is so smart, and, um, it'll do what is safe for you to do.

Brad 22:33

Well, and the, the work you do is a really good complement for traditional therapy. Like, they go together very well.

Nannette 22:40

That is true. Yeah, uh, I do have, um, quite a few therapists that, that love what I do and have actually been to me, so very cool. Um, but they do, they go hand in hand. Um, like I said, you have to heal body, mind, and soul, and talk therapy does that mind thing so you can sort things out. And I call it sitting in your shit, because when you're, when you're processing in your brain or stinkin' thinkin', we always say that too, um, you have to process. And there's so many times that myself, um, I've had to stink and think, and I do it all night long. And, and I've had people, clients that have been like, "Why don't you just go in and balance this?" And it's because I have to process it first and be ready to balance it. I know I can balance it.

Brad 23:24

Well, the thing is, you can do balances all day long, but until your body's ready to release, it doesn't make a difference,

Nannette 23:31

100%, yep. And you, you can feel when it's ready. You, and that's what I always tell my clients. They're like, "So how many times do I need to come in?" And I'm like, "That's it. I'm not like a chiropractor. I don't say you have to come in three times next week and two times the week after. You're gonna come in when you don't feel absolutely blissed out like you do when you leave after a balance. When it starts to feel uncomfortable and you're like, 'No, I've got some energy here that is ready to come out, and I'm ready to release.'" So we work on that, and then pretty soon we've bubbled up everything that has to bubble up, and you don't need me anymore, and we just go to lunch or something, right?

Brad 24:08

Right?

Nannette 24:09

Yeah.

Brad 24:09

Got it. Very cool So even though, you know, you had mentioned earlier that you've done a lot of balances for that incident where you almost hit that kid, it really brought up some strong, strong emotions. So does that mean your body was probably not ready to release that at the time, and so you've still got work to do regarding that?

Nannette 24:31

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, just crying, um, yawning, all that kind of stuff is a release, and when that bubbled up, it was like my body was telling me, "Hey, Nan, we gotta, we got some stuff in here we gotta release." I mean, and I know the, the kid's great now. He, he's absolutely great. He's happy in his life and all the things. I know he's safe. Um, but that, that moment that you took me back to is extremely traumatic. And I guess I still have some more to go. I'm not perfect.

Brad 25:02

No, that's crazy though to, to think, okay, even after all of these years, there's still some of that there. And even after the work you've done, it, it just kinda goes to show that there is always something more to do to improve on your spiritual, mental, emotional, physical health

Nannette 25:20

Right. Well, that's why they call it a journey, right?

Brad 25:23

Ja

Nannette 25:24

not a destination. This is a journey and it's ongoing. It's like every single time I do a reading, um, spirit teaches me something new every single time, and it's awesome. It's ab- uh, like I th- I think I've arrived, you know? And then I go into a reading and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I learned this and this and this and this and this." And, and it's, it's lessons that I needed to learn. It's, it's expanding my psychic medium vocabulary. Like, oh, I learned that, that this means this, and when I see this, it means this. And like, I'm constantly learning. And thank goodness I'm, I'm, I know I'm a big sponge, and I just, I love to learn. I know my spirit guides know that. I think that they get tired of giving me stuff though. But

Brad 26:06

Well, and I think it, just like with anything, right? As soon as you're like, "Oh, I am the expert. I know everything about this," uh, that's when, you

Nannette 26:14

You don't you don't.

Brad 26:15

don't. You definitely

Nannette 26:16

no. Well, and that is one thing, knock on wood, um, I've never had an ego about any of it. I'm always so humbled that, I get to do this and that I get to work with spirit. It's my favorite thing because spirit is so honest and kind and fun. I mean, I, I have spirits that won't even show me gunshot wounds because of the trauma I've been through. Um, they, they don't show me. They'll let me feel like a burning sensation like in the head or, you know, in the chest or whatever, and I know that that's my sign for it. But they won't show it to me 'cause remember, my main gift is that of sight. They will not show that to me or they'll skirt around it. Like, if the, um, spirit has died in a bad way like that, they'll be like, "You don't wanna know." Yeah. And then that's my big clue that that's what happened.

Brad 27:06

that's what happened. So Nan, if somebody wanted to come in and work with you and get either a reading or sit down and do a balance and work out some of these beaver dams and work through some of this trauma, what's the best way for them to do that?

Nannette 27:19

Um, you can go on my website, zenergysage.com, that's the best way, and get on my calendar. There's a lot of things that I offer, so it's depending on where you're at on your spiritual journey. And if you have questions, you can always, um, email us, and we're very happy to answer them either in this forum or just privately, um, in an email or a text

Brad 27:41

And that email is info@ mormon to medium podcast dot com. but they could also reach out to you on social media, right? 'Cause- Yes you're on Instagram and all the, all the places,

Nannette 27:52

Yes. And you know what? We have a lot of new things coming, so watch for them. Get on those socials and, and go like and subscribe to us and watch for what's coming down the pike. It's gonna be fun.

Brad 28:03

And we'll see you

Nannette 28:04

On the other side of the veil