Ep. 105 - Stripping Down to Health and Healing (Tommy Snider pt.2)

Mastering Health and Freedom: Insights from a Top Nutrition Coach

Join us for an enlightening conversation with a leading nutrition and lifestyle coach who shares his unique approach to mastering transitions, maintaining metabolic health, and harnessing high energy. 

Discover his fascinating journey from a professional entertainer to an expert in health optimization. Learn the secrets behind staying illness-free, managing dietary habits, and achieving mental and physical balance. Tune in to hear how childhood trauma was transformed into a superpower and why he believes there is no such thing as cheating on your diet, only learning. This episode is packed with valuable insights and profound revelations!

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nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 0:00

Now if someone were to work with you, would they learn, um, different habits, um, so that they can stop working with you and have a new lifestyle? Um, is it something that they can walk away with?

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 0:12

Yeah. I often joke that, uh, I teach people how to eat hamburger pizza and tacos for a living. Um, and. So like, that's like the key is like, you know, I talked about freedom earlier and like, do I really have freedom? Um, and people's idea of freedom is not being healthy essentially, or not being on a diet. the two things I focus on on a weekly basis is one, do I love what it do? I love what I'm doing, and two, can I do it? Does it fit within my schedule? two things happen, like you're on the right track. so I also ask people in the first, you know, first session is how many people do you know that love a diet? How many people?

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 1:11

No one, but they're all addicted to it. They all do it.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 1:15

Yes. And so like if we have just the intention or the focus on doing that and knowing that you're unlimited in the realm that I create, then everything starts to open up all those other old belief systems shatter, and then something new is born. I'm doing that slowly on a weekly basis, then something like happens like internally where, oh, I'm, I'm becoming strong inside also while shedding the layers of fat. And that produces confidence and know-how, and they're moving through every single part of the calendar week, uh, or the calendar year. And so that's the interesting part is nobody understands transitions are the biggest thing that throw off health rituals. And the calendar year is one big transition. Holidays, Sunday to Monday, kids going into school, getting out of school, maybe getting sick vacations. And so if I can make them a master at transition. Then they actually become free, and that's when they know what's happening before it happens. And they can keep those rituals that create massive amount of energy from them. Because once you create that high point of energy versus a diet that creates like kind of low energy, but you're trying to stay on it, um, doesn't really work. And then you go off somewhere else and eat too much and then you call it, you know, oh, I'm just cheating on myself, which is good mentally, but, but what I do is like, there's never, there's never cheating. There's only learning. And if you know how to satiate yourself at a high level, then you're always gonna go back up to that peak. You're never gonna not that that, that peak is the ultimate form of love and power in your body. So that's what I do it. And then if I'm giving them everything that they could ever dream of as far as like wanting food culturally or whatever it is they like as a child, I make it metabolically sound, then they're strong and they teach themselves something new. And they're never actually cheating on their body. They're satisfying themselves at the highest level possible.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 3:15

Interesting.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 3:16

I love that.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 3:16

interesting.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 3:17

Yeah.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 3:18

That's fun.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 3:18

So like the,

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 3:20

Yeah.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 3:21

energy side of this is what's crazy to me because, know, it's not just nutrition, it, it's, it's the energy which flows so well with what Nan works on. Like she said, you know, you even use the same analogies, like if you get a dam in the body somewhere, what happens? That's one of the things Nan talks about all the time. If you get a beaver dam in one of your meridians, well what's gonna happen downstream? It's not gonna have the energy it needs. It's not gonna grow, it's not gonna be healthy. So it's crazy to see someone use those types of, uh, words and phrases on a nutrition side of life. That's really cool. It's very unique.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 4:02

additionally on, on my side, um, there's like a, there's a triangle, um, in touch for health and on each side of the triangle, um, nutrition is part of it. You've got the physiological, the biochemical, and the spiritual side. So, um, you have to be balanced in all three sides to keep the body, mind and spirit balanced. And if one of them is too heavy, so if we're eating too much or we're eating wrong, that part of that triangle is heavy and it, it doesn't stay balanced. And so you can have, um, negative effects physiologically. Um, you can have negative effects spiritually because you know, that side of the triangle is often, am I making sense? So it, it, it kind of all goes together. It, it absolutely goes together. Um, so magically,

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 4:48

I love that triangle is very, very strong. That's awesome.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 4:53

yeah. Yeah.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 4:58

So, Tommy, I'm gonna, oh, go ahead, Nan.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 5:01

I was just gonna ask him.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 5:02

I Dera.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 5:03

Yeah, please don't derail it yet. You mentioned about getting sick and you also dropped when you and I were DMing that you haven't been sick in 15 years. We just got done with COVID and the biggest p pandemic in history. How did you dodge it? How did you do it? Because if you are doing it, I know your kid's doing it, I know your family's doing it. What's your secret?

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 5:28

Yeah. Um, so it was really interesting when I first realized it.'cause I was like. I was just like, somebody around me was talking about like just being sick or I caught it from someone or whatever. And I started questioning it. I'm like, well, why am I, why haven't I done that in like six to eight years? got food poisoning once, um, in that time period, it wasn't because I was sick. It was just that I was purging something that I consumed. so that was really interesting too, to observe that just based on the 15 year period. so what I realized is that when, you start like really optimizing like your energy or your muscle mass and you focus on nourishing that, then you're really just keep getting stronger and it really starts to reverse, you know, your metabolic age. And if you're focusing on like nourishing the cells in a complete way, then your cells just become stronger. And when you learn also how to clean the body. Um, and also drive your metabolism, which is your energy and keep it strong, then you're not vulnerable because the things that keep that are the very things that, you know, give you results in fat loss or muscle gain. And, and if something's like missing, then I would, I could feel like if I was a little bit weaker or susceptible, and I can go and like, make sure I support that area, which is, you know, sleep, hydration, um, sea salt, uh, balance of nutrients and eating enough for myself, which is hard to do at six four. And also like being able to manage my nervous system, um, whether, if I'm like grounding, uh, using the sunlight, vitamin D, it's the only, uh, nutrient that we produce in our body itself. So like a lot of times when I would need food, sometimes it would actually be that I need sun, and it doesn't matter if like the clouds are outside, I would still get sun. And so there's multiple layers to that. And a lot of it has to do with also minerals that I'm sure you learned from listening to, uh, breca and, and just like plugging in all those gaps and doing the things I need to do. And then also like going back to stress and saying, how do I manage, you know, my body, like my nervous system? And the two things we haven't been taught how to do is manage our biology, meaning, uh, our metabolic system, our blood sugar, and how to be strong. The other thing is, I don't know my nervous system or how to even use it. I don't know how to fulfill myself and how do I manage that nervous system versus give away my power to some person that gives me a diagnosis, like a psychologist. Not that they're bad, but they don't know how to manage the nervous system. because if you did, you wouldn't have to take a pill to manage it. You would just be able to control on your own. So as soon as I could manage like my emotions, which I found out that it's energy in motion. And the hawken scale of vibration is really great to manage that at that point you accept all emotions and all feelings and you can actually swing it. Because on the bottom side, when you have like fear, anxiety, depression, uh, fear, uh, whatever those lower states are, they're just as powerful as the high states. Abundance, joy, freedom, empowerment, all of those things. And, and so once we understand that they're both just powerful and you can swing'em with intention either way. And, and we don't have to stay in that lower state'cause we're stuck. But if, if emotions are energy in motion and something gets stuck, like you said, we trap that thing, then we eat negative things. And like you said, we build fat on top of it. And then as, as soon as we do that, we become toxic, therefore we hit the purge. So my idea, what I've come to understand is that there's no actually, uh, reference to viruses that it's even true, which is really interesting. then we also think that we get it from someone else. What I, what I did is I heard something once that really profoundly affected me, and I think it's a superpower. So like when someone else is around me that is sick, I, the body knows that it needs to purge and it will purge. And a lot of times our aura is affected by something and kinda like what you're speaking on the triad of, you know, what that might be. And at that point, like we might be susceptible and our bodies unconsciously know that like, hey, if this person is purging, maybe I need to purge too. Especially if we haven't cleaned the body in a certain amount of time. And so subconsciously your body will say, oh, it's time to purge and just purge. if you don't have control of your subconscious or even know how to run your body in general, then you're gonna do it unconsciously and say that you caught it from someone else. But in reality one, you're probably not metabolically strong. You probably haven't, you know, fasted or cleaned the body in any way'cause you've never been taught because parasites and candida is really not even taught in the medical system. But for some reason, every country in the world has a para parasite protocol. And once you understand how to work all those things, then you can literally, as somebody's like purging around you. What I say is like, do I need to purge? And then I listen. And if the answer is no, I don't need to get sick,

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 10:50

See, that's what I, one of the things I love about you, you have always been, um, in tune spiritually. You're very intuitive and you've always been like that. You, you feel like a brother to me. And I think that that's what kind of drew me, um, to you and to, to see how intuitive you are. You're intuitive, even with the people that you coach. Um, I, I don't think you always go by what's on the numbers. I think you go by what fits in here and what you're being told to do, which, um, I just think you're an old soul. But what you're saying, um, just brings me back to, uh, an experience I had. I had a client that came in. Um, she, she came in for a muscle balance, right? An energy balance. And I tune into my clients before they come in. So, um, spirit had shown me just her chest, just her chest and nothing else. And I'm like, why are you just showing me her chest? Like, what's going on? She walks in the door and I'm like, what's up with your chest? And she's like, she starts talking and all of a sudden doesn't have much of a voice. And she starts coughing and she's like, I have this crap in my lungs and I can't get it out. And I'm constantly coughing and she's like, I was gonna cancel my appointment, um, because I'm sick and I've been sick. And I'm like, I'm like, I vibrate higher than your sickness. Let's take care of this. And by the time she got done being balanced, um, I balanced her lung meridian and all of her meridians, all of her chakras, all of her light bodies. Um. I even went in and got my, my stethoscope and listened to the lungs and they were clear and her cough was gone. She left here with no sickness and I never got sick. So it's all about vibration, all about energy. And you're describing the exact same thing, just in a little bit different language, but the same, same. It, it's, it's fruit, like the same thing. It's so cool the way Spirit teaches. Um, it's the same language. Do you know? You know what I'm saying? Truth is truth. And, um, you've learned it in a, in one way, and I've learned it in another way. But we're doing the same things and I, I just, I give gratitude to you. I think that that's so cool.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 13:08

Absolutely resonate sister.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 13:14

I love it.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 13:16

Uh, do you want talk about, do you want me to talk about my daughter and close up the sickness thing

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 13:22

Yeah. Yeah.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 13:24

absolutely. Let's hear the story there.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 13:25

Okay, cool. So I had my daughter four years ago. She's four. before came in I was just asking myself like, you know, how could I show up with her the most? Because I've worked with so many moms in the past and seeing parents, uh, really just leave themselves for their children not know how to manage themselves, but also not manage their children.'cause there's no book on that really. And, um, I find like all of, you know, most of the moms that I work with, they're kind of in despair. They don't have energy and they don't know how to put themselves first. Dad's the same way. There's both programs are playing out, but I. You know, to be enough. It's what you do in this life to be enough, right? so for me, what I did is like, okay, how can I not abandon and be strong, but also how can I serve her at I at a higher level because my energy is peak when I need to be. And I remember like when she was first born, um, I went to go, like prep my meals at like 11 o'clock on no sleep. I just, I looked up and I God for, uh, all of the tools that I've, you know, gotten received in my life to be able to be strong and be doing what I was doing right then to be able to nourish myself. so what I noticed also, like within my, uh, meetings with people that people would get sick a lot and I would just ask them the question. I was like, oh, like why do you think he, why do you think he got sick? then they would be like, uh, and then they would come up with something, right? And at that point, over time. When they started to get stronger and stronger their bodies, to notice that they were getting sick on purpose, is interesting. And, and so the main reason why they would get sick on purpose is because they didn't create enough space for themselves. And at that point they, I, I started to teach them to create enough space and they were important enough to do so. And even a simple breath or a simple moment can charge your energy up so much. But when what they figured out and what we've all been told when we were young whenever we needed a break, it the only time we can get a break and not go to school as if we got sick.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 15:52

Oh my gosh, you're right.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 15:54

yeah.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 15:56

What? I never thought of that.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 16:02

so we're all playing out an unconscious program and making ourselves sick. It's the only time we can deserve a break.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 16:11

Wow.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 16:12

so with my daughter, um,

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 16:14

crazy.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 16:16

no. Nobody knows. I'm like, oh my God. So, so thanks for this call. We're, we're letting'em all know. but how I take care of my daughter is the simple framework of what I do, and I just make sure that she's, she eats her protein first before she moves on to carbohydrates or anything that would like spike her dopamine levels she would just, if I gave her the other things first, she would not actually eat like a vegetable or a protein source because she'd naturally just go to that based on our primal instincts. And so once I would structure those meals based on her energy and, you know, and knowing like, you know, why does the baby cry? It's because they need to eat, they need to use the restroom, or they need to get outside usually, or sleep. it's the same way that we would take care of ourselves if we wanted to be strong, but unfortunately, like after like a toddler or five years old, we don't, the baby survives so that we don't, we don't keep adopting those principles how to grow a plant or help a baby thrive. And so for me, like I, I help detox her, um, in what I call special drinks. And if I can give it something that's enjoyable and I give her liquid vitamins and other things in that elixir, then not only would that help move all the things in the tox that she's acquire, um, during that time period. And I also, you know, teach, uh, about like what would, like damage the body or make it, uh, not have energy. So I don't limit her, I just help her tap into like, oh, this gives me energy. Or she noticed when it doesn't give her energy. at that point, like it's a simple metric that she can follow, that she's understands. And then she always comes back to it whether she has a challenge or she has something that like really lights her up and then she can make her own decisions based on that. And she's only four and so that's why she's, I think, been sick twice since she's been born. And

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 18:11

Wow.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 18:11

know if we need to purge. And then I just help her purge and she knows exactly why, which is fascinating.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 18:22

Oh, the little ones get it though. They, they get energy and they get, they're so spiritually in tune. It's amazing.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 18:30

Yeah. Yeah. But I notice if I like say healthy food, it's a different like relationship, but comes up with her own version of what's healthy food, so that based on if she gets energy or not, which is pretty cool.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 18:45

So she's learned to eat intuitively through your coaching and, and helping her learn at a young age. That's, that's amazing.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 18:53

Yeah. What if we all could start like that?

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 18:56

Right? I, I wish that I had had that opportunity.'cause I, I struggle, right? So like after Covid, man, I just packed on and packed on and packed on and I'm still like, oh, it's time to change. Um, but it's hard. Right? I've got 51 years of, of history there of not eating intuitively or healthy.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 19:16

Yeah. And you have so much muscle mass, Brad, that it's like how do you even keep up with that? Kinda like what I said, I'm a big guy and like if I don't eat enough, I'm swinging the other way. I need too much no matter what.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 19:27

Yeah.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 19:28

I'm a cannot run that person.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 19:29

don't, no, it, it's not sustainable. And you know what I learned, Tommy is, so, like Nan mentioned, we did that bodybuilding competition. I got a lot of, of extra muscle mass, and then I got covid and I started packing on the weight. And the muscle doesn't go away. Everyone says, well, muscle disappears and you'll lose the strength. But I still have that muscle mass, and now I've got this layer of fat on top of it. So I'm like three times as big as I was if I'd gotten heavy before. And it sucks. Um, but I'm so grateful that I had that journey and had that experience with Nan. It was like a, a great date every morning.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 20:05

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's interesting about like the covid or quarantine experiences. the, the fascinating number that interests me was that it just magnified the ways we tried to get love or dopamine and the natural, like hu uh, ways we're taught is, you know, watch a show or eat essentially. and how do I nourish myself, uh, when I'm in scarcity? Whether I'm conscious of it or not. And the number was interesting because they thought obesity was gonna increase by 10% in a decade. And after quarantine, I think it took, they, it shrunk to three years, is interesting.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 20:48

Oh wow.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 20:50

Wow. Dang.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 20:53

crazy.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 20:54

The force multiplier. So

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 20:58

big time. Isn't that amazing how different things like will affect that? Like our whole society changed in just a matter of a couple of years. It, it's, it's really, that's

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 21:09

yeah. And then, and I think the interesting part about, go ahead.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 21:13

oh no, go, go ahead.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 21:15

I think the interesting part about that though is we personalize it and we don't talk about it outside of ourself. And so nobody knows that all those challenges weren't actually personal at all. It was simply environmental. If we knew that we could.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 21:30

Yeah.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 21:31

Consciously work on it with not no conditions like about failure or challenge. We could just say, oh, like how do I work with this? And everything would be fine.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 21:43

That's true.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 21:43

Right.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 21:44

Yeah.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 21:45

I heard from a great guru once, he asked me what love was and I gave him like this long-winded answer and I thought it was awesome. And he is like, I think you should try again. And I was like, okay. I gave him another answer. I was like, he's like, no. And he said, love is acceptance. That's it. Blew me away.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 22:49

There's a lot to think about in that statement.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 22:52

Right.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 22:54

Yeah. You know, I, I did want to, I want to, I've been dying to ask about this, this whole conversation. So we talk about change a little bit and, and you might not know this Tommy, but anytime someone asks me what I do for a living, Nan has a set answer. What is that answer, Nan? Yeah. And uh, then it goes from there. My stage name was cinnamon, not because I'm redhead, but because I'm a little bit spicy and hot. and now we talk about change and once upon a time, I heard a rumor that maybe you actually were a stripper or a, a male dancer. Is that true? He's like, oh shit, this question,

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 23:47

Oh my gosh, Brad, I can't believe you went there.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 23:51

I've been dying to ask it all the whole time here.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 23:56

Um, one, I am just curious about how Nan even came up with that.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 24:02

Okay, so when we were dating, I would, I would get into his car and it would smell like cinnamon and he'd have cinnamon Jolly Ranchers, cinnamon gum, like there was a theme right there was just cinnamon, everything. And so I was like, what's up with the cinnamon? And he goes, it's my stripper name. And I was like, what? Like you were a stripper? And he is like, yeah. And so I literally have hung onto that since we dated, and I say it all the time in all settings, like it can be even a very dry setting. And I'll still say it, we were at like a very Mormon birthday party of like a 95-year-old. And some, some old person walks up and ask my husband what he does for a living. And I'm like, oh, he's a stripper. Oh my gosh. She started laughing so hard, she fell off a stair and landed on the floor

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 24:51

Yep.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 24:52

That's

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 24:52

and, and Brad's motto is, there's a body for everybody.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 24:57

We have a body for everybody.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 24:59

That's true. That's true. And, and charisma is the main way you attract anything. And Brad has tons of charisma and, and super

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 25:10

It's true

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 25:12

I love it. I love it. Well, I love the, the name of this podcast is Mormon to Medium. Um, I'll tell you a grand story. like I am, if like Bruce Swain has a Batman and I'm a extremely dynamic person and I have so many like buckets to fill, which is really fascinating. Get to know as you become older. Well, uh, I'm not sure if we're gonna keep this in the podcast, but I will go into,

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 25:50

like I said, if there's something that's off limits, we can get it out. So that's not a problem. But

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 25:56

I

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 25:56

to ask.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 25:57

Yeah, yeah. I'm like totally in. I'm like totally an unconditional truth. Um, so. First of all, this'll take a long time to explain, but I was one of the top five male entertainers in the world at one point. I've toured every, I've toured every state in the United States, and I've toured Europe eight times, I was booked solely on myself, not as a group. And started as a healing superpower when I was four or five years old. And how I built that superpower because I was abused by my mom in secret, mentally and physically.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 26:36

Um,

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 26:36

And because I was so great at everything, and not in a egotistical way, but I was just naturally picked up things and I worked really hard to do it. My dad helped foster that. so what I would do is I would go in my room immediately after an experience I. And I would light up some music that I felt connected to, and I would just move it, and I would just move my body as furious and as expressive and as amazing and as beautiful as I possibly could. And so at that point, like what I would do is I would listen to music and back then we would remember when we taped things off the radio. And so I would listen to the music and like the vibration, like so well, so in second grade, um, I would always try to win at all the competitions, like, you know, in school when they would have word puzzles or something, so they would turn the radio on back when they, you know, didn't have bad words on the radio. the song Red, red Wine came on. Do you guys know that song? Yeah, exactly. And so then I was doing that in the second grade. I knew all the words, so I would like, I was singing it and she was like, Tommy, she's like, you know the worst of this song. yes, Mrs. Williams. She's like, would you like to perform it for us? yes, Mrs. Williams. So she pulled out the teacher's table, she had me get on top of it. She jacked up the music and I rocked it. from then on, like people were asking me for my autograph in second grade and all these things. so then I would not only go back and I would work on more of that in my room alone. So I turned it into something like positive and magnificent. And from that I got the lead in the Nutcracker play in my elementary school. from then there would be multiple experiences where like, when I hear puberty, I was kind of embarrassed a little bit.'cause dancing is not masculine. At least that's what we're told. And so that in inhibits our ability to move as a masculine male, it actually keeps us

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 28:30

Mm-hmm.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 28:31

And, and it goes back to the British where they were so proper in their movement. But if you take Latin movement and also, uh, African movement, that's movement of the Kundalini, which is front, front to back, uh, on, uh, African American. And uh, Latin is side to side in the hips. And so. Uh, when I got to high school, like that's when it kind of opened up. They asked me to be, uh, a celebrity in the rally and they picked vanilla ice for me. And back

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 29:01

Nice.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 29:03

I had blonde hair and like that was back in the nineties when you'd bleach your tips and stuff. So then I did that, and then I got praised for that. But I was always like, um, shy in a way, even though I was, you know, an athlete and all these things. Um, I think mainly because of, I. My stepmom and what I experienced there. and so it like would hinder my ability to express at a full level in fear of like repercussions. But yeah. But within that, it was my superpower that was born. And, um, when I was 20 years old, I'd only been with like two women. I had a, you know, a girlfriend in high school. Um, and, and so I was always very like, intuitive and led with my heart. And so at 20 years old I met, like, when I was single, I was really coming into like my alpha male, like we all are at that time. I was exploitive of it. So then there's this beautiful blonde that came in my life sexy, so feminine. And she helped me like, kind of like observe that about myself cause like just that counter in my life. And then she had a, she was a, an a dancer and she said, Hey, I'm going to audition, you know, for this company. And I wanna get the part, but there's a male there, would you okay with go with me? And I was like, sure. Like no problem. And so I went and he was just focusing on me the whole time, which was really awkward for me. And he was saying, Hey, like I'm building this like really cool like Broadway style show. And there's like 17 or 20 guys in it there's like different ethnicities. It's like, amazing. Would you like to do that? You have, you have what it takes? And I'm like, no, that's not me. And so I denied it and he called me every week for seven to eight weeks. And you know, in sales, like you need to see seven times before you buy. So the last time

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 31:06

Yeah. Yeah.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 31:06

he said, the last time he said, Hey, the best. Guy that does this on the western side of the United States is gonna be at this place that we're doing this at. And I think that you should see him and observe him. also there will be 700 girls there, 20 years old. Okay? So I go and this guy, as soon as he came out, he didn't do anything that was raunchy, super classy, did not speak, and had control over the entire room the whole time. And I was like,

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 31:46

Wow.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 31:48

my internal answer was, I could do that. And so three months later, um, everybody was older than me, but three months later they had battled. They, they had shared this place that they did this at with a whole nother group, which is really fascinating'cause that doesn't happen ever. And so they would flip flop. Eventually, like this group that I was in, um, their name was The Lost Boys, like the movie, which is fascinating. and then they, um, they had a battle for the place. So my first ever time experienced myself on stage, was in a battle. I got chose out of the 20 guys, one of the top five guys my very first time. And I'm like, that's a lot of pressure, right at 20 years old. And so like one, it was an honor. I thought it was honorable, but again, like it was my first time. And so like I hired a choreographer to help me, like blend some of it, made my own music, like got my outfits together, whatever I needed to do. And we ended up winning the battle. So within six months I was in charge of talent development and helping men, uh, unlock their body and helping'em with their style and helping them design themselves. And also how do you be. Sexy while being in your masculine and not having to go raunchy or anything negative. so then from there, you know, it just kind of blew up. And like, all these guys were older than me, so that's how I learned how to be an entrepreneur honestly. And also be able to hold a stage. And, and at that point it kind of really blew up after that and moved to the Bay Area. And I was learning the stuff that I learned now with health at the same time.'cause it, it worked in conjunction with each other and, and, and then, you know, I had like a 13 year run I performed with most like RB singers and rappers on the same stage. And I've been on TV three times and I lived the dream honestly. It was awesome.

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 33:59

That's amazing.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 34:01

awesome,

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 34:02

That's so.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 34:03

Thank you for Yeah. Thank you for sharing with that with us. I, and I know it, it, it comes from a place that you had to be really raw about. Thank you for sharing that. That's really one of the things that I love about this format is that we get to learn things like that about people and really connect in a way that you might not otherwise. Right. If we were just passing on the street or in your office, we might not, we never would've had that conversation, so I, I really appreciate that and if you want to let it stay on the show, awesome. If you're like, yeah, that's, that's just too personal. I don't want that there. That's fine as well. It's. Entirely up to you and we can talk about it, but thank you for sharing that.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 34:45

Yeah.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 34:45

meant a lot.

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 34:46

Yeah,

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 34:46

I, I don't want, I wanna say to Tommy, you, I've not heard that whole story. Um, I think it was in passing that you had joked about it. It wasn't any details or anything, but I felt your, your vulnerability. But I love your superpowers. I love that you took. A trauma and turned it into your strength. Uh, and so many people, as they heal, they start to do that. And I call that unfuckable with because you have healed anything that could make you shamed. Um, and you have made it a strength. And as we get older, that's what we do. When we start to do our healing and we do our inside work, um, we start to make things a strength. And, um, you're just beautiful. You, I've always thought you were beautiful inside and out. You're an old soul and a very familiar soul. Like I said, you feel like a brother to me and, um, I just love you. Um, I'm so grateful that you, you came on the podcast and you shared some of your secrets and, um, just shared a little bit of your soul. Thank you. Thank you so much.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 35:53

Yeah, we're so grateful, Tommy. Um, please tell our listeners where they can get ahold of you. What do they want to do if they wanna reach out and, and, uh, have you helped them out?

tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014: 36:04

Yeah. Um, I do every first session, uh, free, so you could just come and talk to me about anything that you're looking for. To either heal or grow in your life. And I spend an hour with you, I go over like, what takes up your time? I go over your goals and I have an algorithm that, um, I can, you know, take your past, present, and future, what you like to create. And I put it in the algorithm and I tell you from start to finish what it looks like. I take you through like every sector that I talked about on this podcast so you have certain, you know, confidence. Usually by the end of the call, nobody has any questions'cause everything's answered.'cause I know what all the questions are. And at that point, like, uh, you can move forward, uh, based on whatever it is that, that you want and we talk about in that call. And you can reach me on either master metabolic, uh, Instagram, uh, or you can reach me at Tommy uh, on Instagram as well.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 36:57

Awesome, and we'll go ahead and put that in the show notes so it makes it really easy for everybody to see. Um, thank you again, Tommy, and thank you everybody out there. Please like and subscribe. Make sure that you follow us, tell your friends about us and uh, we'll see you

nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014: 37:12

On the other side of the.

brad_1_03-11-2025_174014: 37:16

Tommy. Thank you so much. I'm gonna stop the recording now. Just hang out for just a minute if you would.