Mormon to Medium
"Deep emotion can break you, or break you open. I chose the latter, and embrace my gifts" Nannette was a lifetime member of the "Mormon" church until tragedy struck her family. In 2014 her husband was violently murdered. It was that day, her heavenly gifts were cracked wide open and she began to "see". Since then, Nannette has embraced her psychic/medium abilities and burst out of the "Mormon bubble"; growing her spirituality in a whole new way. Join her as she "looks beyond the veil" and uses her gifts, understanding, and years of experience to help others navigate their own spiritual journeys.
Mormon to Medium
Ep. 104 - Fueling Body and Spirit (Tommy Snider pt.1)
Miracle Worker: Transforming Lives with Master Metabolic Expert Tommy Snyder
In this episode of the Mormon to Medium Podcast, hosts Nannette Wride and Brad Zeeman interview Tommy Snyder from Master Metabolic. Known for his ability to work wonders in the realm of metabolism, Tommy shares his journey from a top trainer at 24 Hour Fitness to a master of metabolic control.
The conversation pivots around Tommy's holistic approach, which includes fueling the body, movement, mindset, and creating healthy rituals to achieve optimal health. He discusses how improper dieting and life traumas can damage metabolism and shares insights on reversing conditions like diabetes and cognitive decline. Tommy's client success stories, including helping his father regain lost memory, highlight the transformative power of his methods. Join us for a mix of humor, inspiration, and a dive into achieving metabolic magic!
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Hello and welcome. This is the Mormon to Medium Podcast. I'm here with Nannette and we have a very special guest today, uh, Tommy Snyder. So Tommy is from Master Metabolic and he absolutely has worked miracles for people. Nan and I have both worked with Tommy in the past, and in fact, Nan found Tommy right when she needed a miracle of her own.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:It is true. So Tommy is super special to me.
Nannette:Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll talk about spirituality, the paranormal religion, and my journey going from Mormon to medium. I'm Nanette Wride. Thanks for listening. Now let's go have some fun.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Um, not only is he a friend, he was a lifesaver at a time where, um, my world came crashing apart and my body, um, wasn't remembering to eat. So, um, I had a family member that set me up with Tommy, and Tommy taught me. Um, how to put my brain and my body back together and to feed her, to fuel her instead of, you know, just eating whatever. So my kids actually told me the other day, um, Tommy, that they remember me walking around with like the snacks of the, the nuts and fruit and stuff in my purse all the time. I always have stuff. So Tommy took me from starving. I was a, like a size four, um, to eating five, six meals a day, um, and fueling my body, but boosting my metabolism so that I could actually build muscle. And so I wasn't starving anymore, which is weird'cause you don't think eating would do that. But anyway. Tommy, tell us about yourself. I'm so excited to have you on.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Oh, thanks. That was a beautiful intro. I, I don't know if I could do it better myself. Appreciate that. Um, I. Can just intro a little bit deeper into where I come from, what I do. Um, but what I do is I give people the keys to their metabolism, which is their energy source and their body. And I believe that everybody has, uh, access to that. But we're told that we don't. And as soon as you turn on the energy system, you start to understand how to work it. And the other piece of that is insulin. So I can control insulin at will and therefore doing a bunch of beautiful things with that, which we'll get into later. Um, where I got that superpower was not the typical channel. It wasn't through college. It was basically the back door, but it was, uh, started at 24 Hour Fitness when they were the superpower on earth 22 years ago of fitness. I ended up being the top grossing 24 hour trainer in the nation, uh, within six months of working there at 22 years old. And then I met the other best guy. Uh, I was in California at the,
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:H Hang on a minute, Tommy. Was that like all women, because they're like, oh my God, look at this guy, or, or
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:No,
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:he's like, I'm not gonna say.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:I try not to look at, use my looks as my superpower, but mostly my energy and my farm. Um, but yes, that does work, I think in my favor as well, so thank you for that. Um, I, I forgot how funny you are, Brad. I appreciate that. so looking, so the other best guy was in Utah. That's my connection to Utah. And what we did is we looked at from a top down effect of how fitness was run in health, and we noticed how many missing pieces there was, and immediately we thought that wasn't fair one. Number two, we knew that we could be better. What we did is we put together a whole system that people can control their outcomes and achieve any result that they want. And that's not typical in our environment. So what we did is we used nutrition in a way that would drive metabolism, which is why Nanette said earlier that she started putting things back in and stoking the fire. The other thing is movement that connects you to your food and your fuel and your body, and that would be the generator to your energy. It's like a dam when you put water through a dam, turns the generator, therefore energy everything about like how we want to transform our body has to do with those two things and how you create energy on the planet. Number three is mindset and like how do you have an abundant mindset and how are you able to drive yourself in the ways that you want to? So I had to become a mindset expert, uh, at a and because I'm sitting with people one on one on a weekly basis for 30 minutes. And how do you get someone to do what they want to do? And how do you allow that to be their choice? I used to think that was first, but until you've solved these two, sometimes you can't drive the mind that you want to because your bio biology is limiting you. four is rituals. Those are, what, how I define them is investments that create who you are. And habits are the opposite of that. We, we have a negative connotation to that, but every, if everything that we did was an investment to who we were, then who would we equate to be over if we were focusing on that on each week? so an example of that could be Nanette. If you could do one easy thing next week to get more energy, what would it be?
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Oh, I've started it. I have started Pilates three times a week and I have tons more energy. I feel so good.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Beautiful. So if you could stack one tiny thing on top of that to get a little bit more, what would that be?
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Probably eat more often. I don't eat enough. That's my problem, so I need to watch what I eat better.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Okay,
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:I was gonna say caffeine.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Hey, I, I have a coffee issue too, so I,
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:E. Either way, what I would say after that, because that's your truth, I would say, what's one simple, easiest way that we can execute that?
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:the eating or the caffeine? Um, well, what you, the caffeine? I can't help you because I can't, I can't get past the coffee. I love coffee. I love the ritual of coffee. Um, but the eating, I remember what you had me do is you had me set a timer for every three to four hours and I had to sit down and eat. Um, and it was always, you know, a protein, a carb, and, um, a fat, um, always. And it didn't have to be a lot. It was a snack. Like it wasn't a ton.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Perfect. Okay, so one, I asked you a question to ask your truth, and then it came from you. I didn't tell you what to do. then after that, we need a, a simple way to execute. that'd be the entry point for you to be able to do so and execute your truth, therefore, a ritual that you can keep versus me telling you what to do.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Right.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:is, number five is schedule. So everything, everybody I've ever met says they're busy. I don't care if they're a Fortune 500, CEO, uh, a founder of a company, a fireman, a teacher, a stay-at-home mom, everybody's busy. So I was like, man, that's really fascinating. the only thing that would limit them is their idea of how busy they are. I found is, is like what's linear to busy is the stress response. And if stress is the number one killer on the planet. It. Then how do I help this person create ease within their schedule? So what I notice is that how people spent their time equate to who they are. if I can create simple hacks and perceptions based on all the thousands of people I've worked with, and I could say, oh, this is how you spring your time. This is how this other person did it. And then I give you hacks based on what's invisible to you. And then I create that, stack that over like, you know, 30, 40, 50 weeks, all of a sudden you're matching your schedule. So then when people work with me past like six months or eight months, then they say that they develop foresight, which is see the future. Therefore, they're not stressful. That's it. We took weight and body fat each week. Body fat is the number one thing that people don't look at when it comes to health, but it's the number one. Marker of health because it's the muscle to fat ratio, ratio, keyword, muscle. And so muscle would be the expression of life, um, pro-life. And it's the number one thing that keeps you young. So it also, in keeping your muscle, it also provides bone density.'cause those two are one in the same. then at that point, like you're growing your body like a plant and flourishing. But if you have a, a plant that has sun, also the moon or darkness, and also, uh, good soil, if you take one of those things away, what happens? Brett?
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:It's gonna wither, it's gonna die. It's not gonna be healthy.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:So why is every diet in America saying to take something out?
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Oh, they all do. That's why they call it die. It.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Fascinating. Fascinating. So, so once I started to understand those things, I could explain that simply to a human and say, Hey, just because you've tried a diet or tried to be healthy before, doesn't mean that like, because you went away from it that you are wrong or you're not enough. It's just that you, the path didn't work for you, even though you probably got some wisdom out of that. But if you just look at it as, how do I create abundance in my body and in my life, then you're gonna treat it like that. Then therefore, you're never wrong. You're just building something and taking care of a plan. That's it.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:I love what you just did there, Tommy. I, I love what you just did there because you put positivity around everything. And I know you, you're, you always are a really uplifting, positive person. I know you, you probably have your moments like all of us do, but you don't come from a place of lack. You don't come from a place of not enough. And, um, that there's always plenty to go around type of thing. And, um, I admire that because so much of the world is all about fear and lack, you know, and, and I'm never gonna be enough type of thing. So I love that.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Yeah, the number one deficiency.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:you know what? So much of, especially the well, and I think probably just humankind, we have these very big body issue issues, right? Like everybody is concerned about how they look and you know, do I look the way I should rather than am I healthy? How do I feel? We all want that, that look, and people are willing to go to such extremes. To get that look rather than to go, I want the health.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Uh, I would agree. would agree. You know what I found really fascinating about humans? Once they have the look, I realize that it's not actually about the look. What I realize is that they're looking for two things. One, do I feel free, two, do I feel my best or exponential? And that equates to the body how it looks, not the other way around. I. So we're going for the wrong thing, which is
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:and the body with the, with the work that I do, I don't even know if you know what I do, but, um, I balance the body, I balance the energies in the body and I, um, balance the muscles. So if you have an old belief system that is in the energy and in the muscles of the body of, I'm fat, um, I'm ugly, the body tends to believe it. Or if you have a trauma that is stuck in the body and your body is in fight or flight constantly, you, the body will do two things. It'll keep you safe and it'll, um, keep you alive. Right? Safe and alive. It has to do those two things. So it'll shut down systems to make those things happen. So it's, it's interesting because I've learned in my old age that the body will pack on weight. If it doesn't feel safe. So if, if you have like a dump, um, in, let's say, um, magnesium because you're in fight or flight, um, there are electrolytes in the body that are gonna cause it, things to mess with, the sugars and different things. So the body's gonna pack on the weight to protect your body. Um, this is your house, right? But once the body feels safe, it's like the fat melts off like butter. So it's, it's, when you're talking energy, there's so many facets of the energy. And I work with the energy I see. Energy and, um, it, it's amazing how the body responds because we're made perfect and the muscles do not know age. So as we start to age, I mean, I'm gonna be 59 in a couple weeks and, um, my body doesn't move like a 59-year-old. I don't have pain. Like I, I have some extra weight, a thousand percent, but I've been majorly stressed. But I just, I stand in sacred, reverent awe of the stages of the body that we should be accepting of instead of being hard on ourselves because the body is telling us a story, right? Um, we pack on weight and it's because, hey, I had something bad happen, or I'm in fight or flight, or I'm stressed. Um, but there's ways that you can get out of that. And especially the positive mindset that you're talking about. It's just, it's huge. It's a mi it's a game changer.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:It is, have you read The Body? The Body keeps the score.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Yes, yes, yes, yes. Highly recommend.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Cool.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:there.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:It's, it's in the, in the library. Yeah. It's, it's literally what I do, Tommy. And I was gonna say, I'm gonna be holding touch for health classes. Look up, touch for health. You would love it. You should add it to your practice because then you could help, um, bring back the balance to the body, to the energy.'cause you're working with the energy anyway. I mean,
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Mm-hmm.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:would go like this with what you're doing. I'm not even kidding. So cool.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:It's beautiful. I like it. I like it. I wanna hear more.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:we absolutely do. And actually, you had mentioned something that Nan literally just talked about. She talked about the sugars. Tell us more about this insulin control,'cause you brought that up. I'm really curious
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Yes.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:we all know that is one of those key elements in the body that helps regulate everything.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:A hundred percent. Yeah. It's one of our superpowers, but, uh, if we don't know how to use it, then it's our Achilles heel and they talk about glycation and, uh, the idea of aging the cells. And, uh, mostly people talk about carbohydrates or simple sugars, but to me, like if you can create like a stable meal, that, and, and the glycemic load would be the equation of like each part of the meal. Um, a lot of people focus on the glycemic index, which is like the value of each meal itself, but the amount of, like each one of those items, plus also the way they look together would create the glycemic load. And, and any difference would change it up. I factor it in is like height, muscle mass, and age or activity level. And once you understand that, then you can design, uh, a full spectrum of meal that is stable for a human to be most optimized. And in that place like you. Loose fat. Most optimally, you gain muscle quicker than anything in Google. Uh, your mental clarity is the highest because your energy is, is great. And if you're, uh, have civil blood sugar, your brain uses 20% of like what you consume and you also have no cravings.'cause the buckets have to be full to be stable. And whether the blood sugar is too high or too low, both are, are just as weak. But that point right in the middle, um, is the most optimal for a human to be in. so if you take a, uh, like the mass culture of who we are, and you say, okay, well 40 to 50% have diabetes. Um, kids, I think under eight, I think 30% of them have diabetes. And also they're having, you know, they're acquiring fatty liver, which also is a reference of spiking blood sugar. And so like essentially big food and big pharma probably don't want us to understand how to do that. And therefore it wouldn't be in the school system and we wouldn't know how to control that at all. Because if we didn't, we could be told how to, you know, act or, you know, shape our environment. So, uh, for me, that's why it's not taught to like practitioners, like nutritionists or trainers or doctors. and the biggest thing for me, my mission is to be able to help people do both of those things. Insulin and also metabolism because they work together. And as soon as you understand how to create that environment, then you can cure honestly seven 70% of diseases, which in the last year I've been working with doctors, uh, hand in hand to where, um, they would check on them, they would refer me and I would, uh, say that, hey, I can, uh, I'm not supposed to say that I can reverse any blood panel in 18 to 24 weeks, but. I can do that, and I may do that, um, if that's the case. But right now we're working on a, a study showing that we can reverse type two diabetes in 18 to 24 weeks. And that's the start of that to prove it. Um, but the same way that I would reverse that would be the same way that I would optimize body fat. So
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Now I have a question. I have a question now that you're on, on diabetes because isn't Alzheimer's and dementia type three diabetes, so it's insulin resistance, right?
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Yes. Yeah. so like
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:So, so you can do that too, right?
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:yeah. And so I've been, uh, as a, as a case study, as we're working with my, my father who's been diagnosed with 60%, uh, memory loss, and it was mostly based on trauma because the trauma affects the hippocampus. And at that point, um, uh, he also was spiking his blood sugar and. 70 pounds overweight, but he didn't understand how to regulate his energy. And at 67, that's kind of a normal thing. And I was listening to something the other day where in 10 years, um, neurodegenerative disease will be the most profitable thing and could even, uh, break the bank on insurance companies because they wouldn't be able to afford it because of diabetes, like accelerated throughout age. and so once you regulate it though, and once I found out that this was happening to him, I was basically all in because that's what we do for our parents, um, as they decline. And so I was really steady when I found it out. I just said, Hey, look, you and your wife are gonna meet with me once a week and we're gonna work on this. And, uh, I believe that we can reverse most of it. So I can send you a picture of my father and what he looks like now. But, uh, essentially, uh, last month he, I did a test on him and I said, Hey. Uh, your ability.'cause he used to be a high level manager, uh, for multiple grocery stores. And I said, your ability to, you know, manage solutions or problems back then. Um, you know, what was it then? And then what is it? What was it before we started? And so he said four outta 10, which matched his diagnosis of 60% loss. then, so last month he said he's eight out of 10 now, which
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:That's awesome. That's huge.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Yeah,
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Wow.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:So it really like expanded my mind and in that time I got multiple other patients that were Parkinson's or, um, or even dementia or Alzheimer's. And so then I went deep into that study. And now I use a combination of, you know, metabolic reset and reverse metabolic DI dysfunction. But I also use, uh, I, I give them that can mentality because my dad was in like deep fear of like losing himself. Which that took about six months to work through. And then, and then also, like I started introducing, uh, neuroprotective peptides, which are also really fascinating to use in conjunction with stabilizing the metabolism worked.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:What is a neuroprotective? Go ahead.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:no, you got it, man.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:What's a neuroprotective peptide? What is, what is that?
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:So there's multiple ones. And so if we're talking about peptides, most people in America would immediately move to a GLP one or ozempic. But those are the worst peptides at all because it stops human function. So, but the
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Right.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:is though, all the other ones improve human function. so like most of the research comes from Russia because they, like, for instance, a hundred million capsules were consumed by Russia last year. So that means that there's something positive, also with like ozempic, like they don't even prescribe it in their own country. So that shows you something, uh, that you probably shouldn't be doing that. But what you should be doing is understanding why you don't know about all the other ones. And so the neuroprotective peptides, for example, are Selan Cmax and cerebral Isin. Those are really powerful. And when you pair it with something like what I do, then you're supercharging the body. And these peptides have our proteins that something that you already have in your body, but when you put them in your body, they help build those proteins back and create new patterns in the body to be able to think better or heal something else in the body, which are really, really, really cool.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Wow. Thank you. I appreciate that. Sorry, honey.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:No, that that's
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Yeah.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:exactly what I was gonna talk about is, is the peptides. Because you hear a lot about that, right? They're, oh, peptides this, peptides that. And everyone goes, what the hell is a peptide? You know? So
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Mm.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:for that, that very brief explanation. I know you could probably go into hours of discourse just about peptides.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Yeah, I could. We actually are probably moving it where we get a nurse practitioner so that they can prescribe them for our clients, especially because I'm moving into more, uh, more medical. And a lot of our clients are above 50. So the goal is to metabolic age essentially.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:And so obviously with your dad, you had a lot of success, right? E emotionally that had to be amazing for you to be like, wow, you know, I've been able to help my dad like this. What was that like? What did that feel like? I.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:I would that's a very deep question. I would say that's probably every son or daughter's dream. And it was accumulation of all the things I had last learned my whole life, but also really in the last 20 years. And if I think like every person that I see, and I usually see 22 people a day for the last 22 years, um, it was like a culmination of everything that I ever did be able to support him in that, that process. And so it gave me not only validation of like all the hard work and all the challenges that I've ever, and then the victories that I've ever, uh, come across, but um, there was so much like healing in that process. And we went through like his whole life and gave his power back essentially. it was also a place where we could, um, grow unconditional love. I. And he could really understand what that meant. I believe, um, that maybe we don't fully understand what that is, uh, not only just with ourself, but also our family and also outside sources, um, outside our outside world. so that was a beautiful place to do that. And, uh, I also have been able to teach him how to get more energy from his surroundings, which was very validating because it, it's not just with his environment, but his family as well. And to move him himself out of his own way that he didn't, couldn't see. And to be able to present a new idea, which has much been able to expand our family, uh, just in, within the last year.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:That's amazing. I, I love hearing that. I, I can only imagine how enriching that was for both of you, you know, to be able to have that close relationship. And you're right. I mean, that's, that's absolutely what we wanna be able to do for our parents
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's,
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:my kids, if they're listening better. Want to do that for me?
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:you're worth it. will,
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:Thank you. I think so, Nan.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:If you have someone out there that um, has, um, diabetes, let's say, and maybe they're an adult or maybe a menopausal woman, I don't know that has diabetes, is it too late to turn that around and help heal that
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:uh, you can do it in any D age, and I say 18 to 24 weeks. But to be honest with you, I can probably do, I can personally create the environment to do it 12 to 16 weeks. And
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:can, do you do like blood tests to keep track of what's going on in the body or how do you keep track?
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:uh, yes, yes we do. And but to be honest with you, I don't have to. the reason why, it's kind of like using like a blood test, but also like using the scale to navigate us. The blood test and the scale is just representing the outcome. if you water a plant, take care of the plant as the plant needs, then you already know the outcome, But so what I do is I know our algorithms, we use software that we had designed'cause there's no results engine on earth that can do all the things that we need it to do. I can just literally just build it in the software based on the metrics of the body and make sure the movement matches, like whatever the intake of food is. And then I know that that happens naturally no matter what.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Nice.
brad_1_03-11-2025_174014:Now, we talked about diets a little bit and. Every time you look at a diet, it's like you said, I'm taking this away. I'm not eating, um, red meat, and then it's all I'm eating is red meat, or I'm just eating raw now. Or you know, there's always something like that. High protein, low carbs, high carbs, rotate carbs, balance it back and forth. Um, so there are a million different diets out there. So when you start taking those things away, those approaches always seem to be short-lived because they don't really create those lasting habits you talked about. Right. What else happens in that that makes people weaker rather than stronger? How do we, how should we change the way we approach that?
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Uh, the first thing that comes to me is knowing where it comes from, because then we have power over it versus. Keep seeking, uh, to never really find the thing. And we talked earlier about like anything bored outta scarcity is probably not abundant. right there, you already know that's not the way the universe works. so, like for me, um, where it comes from is, I, I track back into the eighties when obesity started to rise and continue to rise. so whenever you have a sinking ship, you're gonna do is you're gonna be like, how can I not make this ship sink? If you're gonna be like attracting water, like working really hard to do it, but every solution you're gonna come up with is probably not how to make the ship run strong. You're gonna mitigate, sinking, right? then, then what you're gonna look at is those obesity rises. Sickness rises. You are gonna say, how can I stop the sinking? And you're gonna say, oh, well you. Something has to be patched, right? Something is wrong. And so if something's wrong and obesity rises, you're gonna immediately think I'm eating too much. And so at that point, you didn't even know that before. You were not eating enough anyway you're just packing, stacking for the winter and then going to sleep, you know? And that incubator you will gain more if you don't eat enough.'cause the muscle will atrophy and then your metabolism goes down. Your ability to like, uh, have strength and also, uh, run your metabolism will go down, therefore, eventually getting fatter and fatter. And unfortunately, that's when you know problems happen. if you're already in scarcity before when you think you're free and not on a diet, and then you add more scarcity to it, going to feel worse over time. Then you're gonna say, this doesn't work, and you're going to go back to what you think is fear, but right back to scarcity again. And that's not gonna make you want to go back to a healthy solution none of those actually work long term. I think five to 10% of people keep doing keto. Um, but every diet in America, you lose on average 20 to 30% muscle mass when you're on the diet. And so over time multiplied, you're going to end up worse over time. So that's what keeps us away from being healthy and being vital and being strong because there's no solution that actually helps us become strong be able to, you know, be like a plant, you know, abundant. Does that
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:I I have a question because you, you brought up Yeah, you did, but it brought another question you brought up keto. So, Brad and I, um, in 2019, we did bodybuilding competition and we, um, we went keto during it to drop some pounds, but we were lifting, um, for a couple hours every day, six days a week. Um, we, we had dropped a whole bunch of weight. Um, my, my face was all sun in and I never wanna see another piece of tilapia again in my life. Um, it was not fun, but it, but it was fun to push our body to see what we could do. But what it did to my body, it didn't do this to Brad, but what it did to my body is it put me in insulin resistance. And so, um, my hormone doctor saw my blood tests and she said. You're in insulin resistance from your keto diet. We've gotta get your, your sugars changed. And literally if I don't eat, um, regularly, even if I'm not hungry, I get like the spins and I feel like I'm gonna like pass out type of things. So very hypoglycemic. Um,
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Mm-hmm.
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:it, I feel like the keto ruined my metabolism and I'm still recovering all of these years. LA later, um, what I started to do, I, I don't know if you've heard of Gary Breca. Um, he, he's that neuroscientist that talks about how the body, um, works and metabolizes things and stuff. But, um, I started to change like the oils that I used in my diet and exercise and things like that. And literally by the blood test, she was like, you're no longer in insulin resistance. How did you do this? And I was just like. I just did what the, the neuroscientists said to do. I don't even know how it worked, Tommy. No idea. You probably know more about this than I do other than I'm not in insulin resistance anymore. But now I can go like half the day and not eat anything. I'm not very nice, but I'm not gonna pass out either. So how do you see that with different diets that people have tried? Do you see that it actually damages their metabolism and you have to go through a recovery stage?
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:Yes. There's not like one thing that's missing something as we talked about earlier, so, and what Americans like to do. Maybe it's just humans in general is focus on singularity. It's also how you sell something, or is that, that's what they say. Like you have to have a niche to sell something. Um, and so when you have so many years of being, you know, multimillion dollar, you know, avenue of, you know, you know, making money, help, trying to help people, then you're gonna be like, what's the new niche? Or what's the new idea? What's the tagline that I can use? So they'll single something out, like keto, you know, paleo, a vegetarian, uh, intermittent fasting, whatever the thing is. And so like for us, like none of that really drives metabolism and none of it offers metabolic flexibility, which that's who you're talking about as far as like going from keto, but you know, missing something, right? Which will work
nannette_1_03-11-2025_174014:Yeah.
tommy_1_03-11-2025_184014:for a certain amount of time, but it has a limitation. And so like, I actually oscillate and use fats and carbohydrates to supercharge the body and balance it out. So when I'm designing a plan. meal might be like keto or higher fat, but that's, you know, that just goes with the meal and it doesn't, you know, it doesn't take away from the whole day. And then one might have like more carbohydrates, but I'll always use fruit to be able to stabilize the meal too, so we can get that higher amount of energy and that clarity, uh, and of the mind to get the, you know, the fructose, uh, the sugars that we need and, and then also, uh, making sure that it has enough fiber to be able to process and digest quickly. So like, it's really just about that flexibility and to be able to use all nutrients as a superpower instead of single one out.
