Mormon to Medium

Ep. 93 - Dating Rides & Spirit Guides (Collaboration with The Shit Behind the Show pt. 1)

Nannette Wride / Brad Zeeman / Christine Tanner Season 2 Episode 93

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In this episode of the 'Mormon to Medium' podcast, Brad and Nannette team up with their friend Christine Tanner from 'The Shit Behind the Show' podcast. Together, they discuss their unique journeys, from Nan's transition from Mormonism to becoming a medium, to Christine's experience with divorce, trauma, and healing. The episode is filled with humor, candid conversations about relationships, spirituality, and personal growth. Christine shares insights from her own show and her dating stories, while Brad and Nan provide their perspectives. Join this engaging and relatable discussion that combines laughter, life lessons, and a touch of the supernatural.

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Nannette:

Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll talk about spirituality, the paranormal religion, and my journey going from Mormon to medium. I'm Nanette Wride. Thanks for listening. Now let's go have some fun. Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast. we are your host, Brad and Nan, and we're here with a really good friend, Christine Tanner, and she has a podcast. You need to go check out too. It is the shit behind the show and oh my gosh, well can relate.

Brad:

Yep, we're going to have a great show for everyone today, so we're really that you're joining us this week.

Christine:

And welcome back to the shit behind the show. This week I am joined by Brad and Nan from the Mormon to Medium podcast. Super excited. We are going to just collab today and have fun with this. Thanks for joining guys.

Brad:

Absolutely.

Nannette:

though? I am. Just keep

Brad:

you happy

Nannette:

Alright. Yeah. Yours might be cold, yeah?

Christine:

Yes, thank you for the coffee.

Nannette:

and I will make

Christine:

It's getting there.

Nannette:

So, if we have to take a pause.

Christine:

Okay,

Nannette:

Run back, take two minutes,

Christine:

I'm spoiled here. Nan makes her own creamer.

Brad:

of like a Susie homemaker. She's the Susie homemaker of mediums.

Nannette:

mediums, She, she's a medium

Brad:

She just

Nannette:

good homemaker,

Christine:

she's,

Brad:

she's a medium homemaker. She's not really high on the list, but

Christine:

goals,

Brad:

goals, goals to be a medium, medium homemaker look, We've been looking forward to this podcast for a while. So we actually had recorded an episode a few weeks ago and. Talk about the shit behind the show. Things just didn't work out. And so sometimes you just have to scrap a project and say, you know what? It wasn't meant to be at that time. We'll do it again later. So thank you for, uh, your patience, Christine, for working with us like this. It's so weird how none of the electronics wanted to

Christine:

Thank you. Mine didn't work. Like nothing worked that day. No. And we had some great content.

Nannette:

We did.

Brad:

yeah. We had so much fun.

Christine:

Like two hours worth, probably.

Nannette:

then an hour before that. So, yeah.

Christine:

And it didn't, none of it worked out.

Nannette:

No.

Brad:

that's the problem is we always go to breakfast or lunch or whatever, and all your really good conversation comes out then. And you're like, oh, we should have said that on the show.

Christine:

Yeah, we should have a mic with us at all times.

Nannette:

Oh, you mean like the last hour we've been sitting here?

Christine:

Yeah.

Nannette:

you guys.

Christine:

And Nana's been like, guys, come on.

Brad:

like, stop. Will you push record?

Christine:

record?

Brad:

Just push record. So

Nannette:

So a lot of people probably don't know this, but Brad and Christine used to work together. So, um, they became friends that way. And, um, and I later when I was dating Brad met Christine and we kind of didn't have a whole lot to do with each other until your shit behind the show started happening. And she just reached out to me one morning and was like, Hey, can you pull some cards for me? And I was like, she's talking to me. She usually talks to Brad.

Christine:

It was this crazy feeling of like, Spirit was just like hitting me on the head. You have to reach out to her. You have to reach out to her. Ask her if she does, because I didn't even know that you did. tarot readings. I think I just asked, do you do readings? And, and it was amazing. Did a great reading

Nannette:

Thank you for

Brad:

what was

Nannette:

out. That's what I

Brad:

That's what I want, what was amazing about it?

Christine:

I told you, everyone would know. No, she was,

Nannette:

knew

Brad:

that out there. She

Christine:

she was spot on with my spirit guide right now, which is my grandmother. That I feel a lot, but knew my nickname that she calls me, called me and just some other insight in life that I'm still waiting for, but calming and comforting.

Brad:

I love that. That's super cool. It's super cool that you know, your spirit guides.

Christine:

you know, you're sure guys. One,

Nannette:

Yeah, you have a couple more.

Christine:

Yeah, I just know of the one, but. I would love to, Ooh, that would be fun. A fun show, right?

Nannette:

Spare guides?

Christine:

To talk about

Nannette:

Oh, yeah. Yeah, the stories.

Christine:

Yes. We have lots.

Nannette:

It would be so fun to like step you through a meditation, to talk to your spirit guide. That would be really

Christine:

Can we?

Nannette:

If you want.

Christine:

Oh, let's do that.

Nannette:

Brad's like, wait, what about me? Remember you don't care about your spirit guides.

Brad:

I'm good. Yeah. They're there. They're good. It's all he needs to know.

Christine:

That's all he needs to know.

Nannette:

It's true. You would think being married to me because I'm an Aries, so I have to be in control. I have to know everything's working and all the things I even asked him, I'm like, don't you want to know about your spirit team? Don't you want to know who your spirit guides are? He's like, yeah. Like, for real like me,

Brad:

they're there. Well, look here. Here's my thing. If you overthink it too much, then It ruins the, the magic, right? Let there be, it does. Let there be some magic and just let things happen the way they're supposed to. If you sit back and go, alright, it's going to work out. It usually does. And if you stress out about it and you put all of your energy into like, oh my god, this is horrible. Guess what? It, it really does continue to be horrible. You, you get what you put out there.

Christine:

be horrible. You, you get what you put out there. See,

Nannette:

I was the same way. I wanted to know because I wanted to know why they were with me. And what they brought to the table. Because, you know, every spirit guide will have different, um, gifts that they can, that they can do. So, I have a new spirit guide that came in. Funny little thing. I'm not going to tell you everything about her, but, um, I did some shit that, and I said some words the other day that are not English that I don't know, but she told me to say them and I said them three times and she blew some stuff into the air and I was like, holy shit, something's going down. Like

Christine:

Oh, wow.

Nannette:

they, They bring their gifts that they have created in their life, um, to you so that you can. by them. So they're like your personal tutors. So, um, very, very cool people or spirits or whatever, but they're still people.

Christine:

So fun.

Brad:

So Christine, tell us a little bit about your show.

Christine:

I can get started why I started it.

Brad:

Yeah, that's perfect.

Christine:

Okay. Uh, so, I was the typical newly divorced single shitshow who got out there and just, not only do you, you know, Or did I bring all of what I call my emotional backpack? You know, you throw all of your stuff in that you've carried through conditioning, through life, through marriage, whatever. Childhood. So I had all of that because my childhood was colorful. Then, you know, the marriage and the being cheated on and just the stuff. So I get out in the single world and I'm like, ooh. Boys,

Brad:

attention.

Christine:

you know, attention. Did it

Brad:

ask you this. How old were you when you got married?

Christine:

was 19. Makes sense, right?

Brad:

yeah. Well, I, I was 18. How old were you Nan? 16. 16. So yeah, we were all young, married folks from Mormon

Christine:

Yes. And then having children young, like I was, you know, Being a mom when everyone else was going to college and

Brad:

right.

Christine:

and so yeah, get divorced. And all of a sudden I'm pretty, you know, all these guys and I get out there and I date them all. And I'm just like, as I'm going along, I'm spreading my traumas. Out to everyone else, you know, I had no business dating. I would date guys that were ready for marriage and I would just, you know, three to six months. I'm like, Oh, I'm gone by and didn't even give a shit about their feelings or anything. It was just like, I'm out.

Brad:

I'm That's so cold.

Christine:

I know, but I didn't realize it at the time. I wasn't on purpose, but

Nannette:

I have a question though. You said guys that were ready for marriage. Is that even really a thing? Because they've got their backpacks too, right? And most guys don't do their healing as quickly as girls do. So I'm just wondering, were they just wanting somebody to come and be toxic with them?

Christine:

Yes, wanting marriage, I should say. Wanting

Nannette:

but wanting marriage. Okay.

Christine:

And I was not even, that was not even a word in my vocabulary. I was like, oh hell no, never again. Like, I was a mess.

Brad:

a mess. Well, and after you've been through a divorce and it's messy, that is the last thing you want. That is the last thing you're looking for. You're like, nope, that's not happening.

Christine:

and mine was pretty gross. So then I, I get remarried and on our honeymoon, he beat the shit out of me.

Nannette:

Woah.

Christine:

and so what does that tell me? Like, girlfriend, you got to pull your shit together. And do some work on yourself and meet this guy on a dating app. And we just, you know, decided we're just buddies. And he's like, you should really share your stuff with people. It could help them.

Brad:

say your stuff or your shit. You've got a lot of shit, Christine.

Christine:

got a lot of shit, my, all of this shit in my backpack And people liked it, but. The one thing that I learned through all of this is they like it because they can relate and they get something from it because it's like almost like, okay, she's already carved this path the wrong way. I'm gonna take the other one the right way

Nannette:

the

Brad:

And just

Christine:

and just follow where she tells me to go.

Brad:

If only people did that. I think humans by nature love to learn things the hard way. We have to learn it

Christine:

one? No. No,

Brad:

No, no, you're not.

Christine:

learning is,

Brad:

Vicarious learning is, it's a great concept, but it's so seldom actually done. I

Christine:

it differently, it's, that's how I got started. And then I doing, well, went on my healing journey, began it about that point. It was like, okay, you've got to stop. You're going to keep doing it. This pattern going and Attracting these men. I am still trying to get this down. By the way. I am NOT I Don't feel like I have perfected it yet. So taking a step back again trying to figure it out, but

Brad:

Christine, can I ask you a question? So you brought up getting married and going on your honeymoon and he was abusive and I don't want to talk about something that's hurtful to you. So, yeah.

Christine:

Oh,

Brad:

You know,

Christine:

know me, it's fine. Okay.

Brad:

but, but if it's ugly or uncomfortable, you know, raise your hand, ring the bell, whatever, go to your safe place and cry. I, you get it. But why do you think that happened? Did you just settle? You were like, Hey, I need companionship. I need a relationship. What drove you to pick that person? Or was he not that person while you were dating?

Christine:

So he was not, while we were dating now other people. Brad saw red flags.

Nannette:

Oh! You told her? Oh,

Christine:

he did. And yeah, tried to warn me, but I was like, but he was, he was a provider and backstory. And this is where you can relate. He had recently lost his wife and had her daughters that he was still raising. And they called me second mom. Oh, And he's like, he used that. They, they just want a mom and she wanted you to be there for them because they didn't have a relationship with their dad, their biological dad. And he, he knew I had known him for 12 years. He knew I had a kind heart and I was never fully attracted to him or in it for the marriage. It was more for all of the kids. He was a great stepdad to all of them. And I loved those girls. But was he physically abusive? No. Was he verbally even? No. He was like, we didn't really fight. Uh, just something snapped on the honeymoon in Hawaii. And then later I found out he had beat his wife for years.

Nannette:

Wow.

Christine:

But was I in a place to even be remarried? No. Like I should, that would have been a great time to take that two years and just do my work, you know, and, and discover who I am. But I didn't even realize that that was a thing at that time. Does that make sense?

Nannette:

Oh, totally. I think a lot of people don't realize that when you get divorced, that it's a loss. And so you have to grieve that loss and go through all of the feelings, all of the emotions that that provides. And if you skip that and just start dating again, it's, it's the rebound effect and it's never the right guy ever. And it's usually. the same vibration as what you just left. So it's like, you're not getting anything any better, but you never know until you actually see that in hindsight, right?

Christine:

Yeah, yeah seeing it now And I, I try to notice the right, I could tell you guys right now, I could sit here and you're all going to shake your head and say, I'm full of shit. I could sit here and say, Oh yeah, and I, I get it now and I understand it now. But as you all know, in this room, I recently just got out of something that was an abusive cycle again.

Brad:

Yeah. But you've got your feet underneath you

Christine:

I've got both feet under me again, He's never gonna let that one go.

Brad:

It was amazing.

Nannette:

That would Um, Yeah, so

Christine:

yeah, so I'm, I'm trying to back to the drawing board, right? And that's what I do.

Brad:

So if you were to talk to people and say, Hey, look, watch for these red flags, what would those be? What would that look like to someone? Who might be in that situation you were in, how would you help them avoid that?

Christine:

You know, I have learned The best way to know, and the most accurate is follow your feelings and your gut. Girls, we are not being crazy if a guy says something to us and it feels off and your nervous system starts to go a little crazy and your stomach starts turning and they're saying, Oh, you're full of shit. No, you're not. No. Something is telling you something is off. If you feel that at all, pay attention to that. That's a red flag. And that's the best way is is just listening to that and not letting and it can be women to write men and women can both be abusive, not letting them tell you like, Oh, it's all you, you know, you're just crazy, because you will find out later that you're actually not fucking crazy. Like, right, the truth always comes out. And and I'm very grateful for this last relationship, though, Because there was a lot of, there were good things that I have taken from that, but also it triggered me a lot. And that is so important in your healing because I have learned to be triggered and sit with that and sit with my emotion and my nervous system going crazy and I can regulate myself now. I don't need them to come to me and do it for me, but I've learned how to do it myself. And I also understand, okay, this is something that I need to address is I'm being triggered. And that was great for my healing.

Brad:

I love that. Well that's like Nan always says, if you can feel it, you can heal it. So if you get triggered, that's an opportunity to heal and grow, right?

Nannette:

Right. And I just barely learned something, by the way. I know that you have, um, layers of trauma in your life, Like an onion.

Brad:

onion.

Nannette:

but the layers of trauma, if you were to, you know, put little dots across a piece of paper and then draw the lines from trauma to trauma to trauma, and it can be, you know, Childhood abuse to being chased by a dog, but I mean, trauma, anytime the body's had to go into fight or flight, trauma, trauma, upon trauma, upon trauma, right? And they all have a vibration. When you have one of those triggers, the trigger, as you know, as you just pretty much said, it is an invitation to heal, right? The body saying, I need you to look at this. I need you to sit with this, but a lot of times people don't like to sit in the shit. They don't like to look at it. They don't like to. Feel it. And we have to feel it and let it pass through us, but the key is letting it go body, mind and soul. But what I learned is those little dots of each trauma. If you have a trigger and one goes off, guess what? It's not just the one going off. It's all of them at once Going off And that's why you feel so shitty because it's all of the belief systems, all of the emotions from all of them together that are going off and making it so that you absolutely cannot cope. And then you are, you're like, okay, I'm gonna have to sit in this for a couple of days, or do you know what I mean? That's why it takes so long to process it, um, in your mind so that you can get ready to let go of it with your soul and letting your body feel safe again. But I thought it was really interesting cause I had never thought of trauma like that at all, but it literally,

Brad:

what's like a spiderweb. It just kind of pings all the way across the web, right?

Nannette:

Oh, totally, totally.

Christine:

And that does make sense because I will shake. My nervous system just goes insane and I have to take a minute and pull myself out of the situation and just sit with that and breathe through

Nannette:

Yes.

Christine:

And it is difficult, but the more I've done that, it is, it is getting easier. but I've also learned that along with those triggers comes the intuitive nature of like, something's not right here. This is a red flag, like, you know, a huge warning. And so that's something that I've learned recently about myself and, and it feels good to feel like, okay, this is like light years from where I was when I first got divorced years ago. So, you know, I'm, I'm leveling up. But, dammit, I'm ready to not be triggered like that anymore. Like, I am done. I

Nannette:

that you're willing to sit with it though, because so many people, it's uncomfortable and they don't want to sit with it. And so they'll, you know, please don't take this wrong, but they'll numb it with a pill or they'll numb it by taking something that will make them sleep or alcohol or whatever, but they'll numb it so they don't have to feel it. But the problem is, is when that wears off. It's still there waiting for you. Like this little tiny monster. And I was like, no, you still get to look at this. You can numb me for years. I don't give a shit. Cause you're still going to feel it when you come out of this shit. So it's like, if you realize that this is part of the journey. Yeah. I love that you sit with that. Cause so many people are too afraid or they just, it's just too uncomfortable.

Christine:

uncomfortable. It is uncomfortable, but it, again, there's, there's a piece that comes with it that like, Okay. Each time it's getting and you know, I work on doing breath work and my own ways of healing and each time I do that also, I feel like I've healed a lot and it's just getting easier and easier. The fight or flight is still there, but again, I can calm myself down quicker and address it and heal it. And. So, yeah, I absolutely love that. And, and really honestly, you can read all the books, you can go to therapy, but you're not going to fully heal until you have to practice it until you have to really apply what you've learned and discover exactly, well, one, we can say all day long, well, this triggers me. How do you know until it does, you know, there are things that trigger me that I'm like, holy shit. And I have to dive into why, you know, where did this come from? So, so yeah, I'm just the poster child for healing and, and

Brad:

But you know what? We should all be our own poster child for healing though, right? We should all be doing that anyway. So yeah, that's awesome. Good for you.

Nannette:

you.

Brad:

Good for you sitting in the Well,

Christine:

Well, I mean, I did have to get my ass kicked first.

Nannette:

You're stubborn. We know it. It's fine.

Christine:

Universe is like, fine, here's a black eye. God damn it,

Brad:

damn it again.

Nannette:

I have to make you listen this way, I will.

Christine:

way, I will. I learned the hard way. No.

Brad:

Sometimes the hard way is good.

Nannette:

Bradley J. Zeman.

Brad:

What?

Christine:

I tried to say it before she got it. You

Brad:

You two perverted

Christine:

Yeah,

Nannette:

Yeah. Uh huh. We hang out with

Brad:

That was, that was a very, very benign comment that you guys just took the wrong

Christine:

Oh,

Nannette:

Oh yeah. Cause you're so innocent. Yeah.

Brad:

don't know if anyone can realize this, but I am being picked on.

Nannette:

Uh huh.

Christine:

you are the only man in the room.

Brad:

Yeah, it's very

Christine:

So

Nannette:

He's actually a lesbian, but whatever.

Brad:

Pseudo masculinity.

Christine:

I need a t shirt.

Brad:

Oh my god, yes.

Christine:

it has to be hot pink.

Brad:

Yeah, Pseudo masculinity. So, Christine got ghosted by a guy. She had some great conversations, but Christine's kind of a smartass and, uh, well, I should let you tell the story. So tell us about pseudo masculinity, Christine.

Christine:

so, so, you know, someone was trying to really honestly, I think he was trying to get in my pants. And, um, He tried to play the whole, uh, energy healer, you know, Ooh, I'm going to get to her this way. He even used Deadpool. Like how rude is that? And when he figured out I wasn't that girl, he ghosted me, but he posted something on Facebook where he said something along the effect of, um, Man are turning women into lesbians these days. And so I commented and I said, hashtag pseudo masculinity, man, bro, text me right away. And he's like, did you just say I have no balls and pseudo masculinity? And he was so offended

Brad:

I have

Christine:

had to Google it. And it was only on Urban Dictionary. I'm like, of course, because I made it up.

Brad:

it

Christine:

I didn't know it was an actual term. Okay, bro.

Brad:

like, of course, made it

Christine:

My own. It's

Brad:

Oh, our energy just vibes. I can feel a connection between you and I. We've definitely known each other so many lifetimes.

Christine:

Oh, I've had that

Brad:

Oh my God. Like seriously, women fall for that.

Nannette:

No.

Christine:

but it's been a while since I've had someone do this.

Brad:

someone's fallen

Christine:

Well, someone

Brad:

would stop doing it.

Nannette:

it I know.

Christine:

to give it up. I thought he was cool. I really did. I love the bantering, you know, I am a smart ass. It was fun, but I did notice, and I felt his energy. I can feel people's energy even over the phone text I felt it pull away.

Brad:

I can totally feel your

Nannette:

this work for

Christine:

Wait, could this work for me? I need to find

Brad:

Do you know what? Yeah, that's your, that's your new angle, Christine. Yeah. Next time, next time you go to the club, just be like, I can totally feel this energy between us. I could feel it across the room and, and you just have this aura about

Christine:

just going to say the aura. And ooh, is that my name? I see my name. using it. Yeah, totally. You're

Brad:

You're welcome.

Christine:

report

Brad:

Return and report.

Christine:

and report. Gosh. Oh, you can live vicariously through me. It's fine. Thank You

Brad:

You know, honestly, I would not want to live through the dating scene again.

Christine:

I'm so over it.

Brad:

yeah, I don't envy you at all. It was one of those times where it's right after the divorce. I was like, Oh shit. You know? And for a long time I like, I didn't want anything to do with anyone else. And then I started dating. I'm like, kind of like you, I'm like, wait a minute, Like women like me. So I'm going to go out and I'm going to, Have fun and do whatever, but it

Nannette:

Have a lot of sex, you mean?

Brad:

No, that's not what I said.

Christine:

a dirty little whore?

Nannette:

was a ho bag. Yeah. He slept around all the time. One night stands all the time. Just bang, bang, bang. Done.

Brad:

Yeah, I was the biggest slut in like

Christine:

and he used He used to call me Ho-fo-sho

Brad:

me. No, you were Tinder Tanner.

Christine:

Tinder. Tanner I did try Tinder back then. That was a long time ago.

Brad:

That was a long time ago. My gosh. Yeah, I've known Christine as long as I've known, you No, Nan, that's kind of crazy.

Nannette:

But you dated Christine before you dated

Brad:

We went on a date and it just,

Christine:

We were more like pals. This

Brad:

This is, this is like a sister. You know what I mean?

Nannette:

yeah.

Christine:

Yeah, And then it was just like, well, we can be office, husband, wife, and talk about all of our

Nannette:

of our dating. He did?

Christine:

You did? Yeah.

Nannette:

like,

Brad:

Yeah, because I'm like, oh yeah, my, my,

Nannette:

my, My work

Brad:

my

Nannette:

My work spouse. I'm like, no, how about no, because you did take her on a date. I'm like, did you kiss her? He goes, well, yeah,

Christine:

We did.

Brad:

Exactly. That's how memorable it

Christine:

like, I didn't

Nannette:

Oh no, she's like my sister.

Christine:

Yes.

Nannette:

That's what he said.

Christine:

were like that. But I

Nannette:

But I still love teasing him. It was way fun to

Brad:

Rich was my work spouse too. So I'm like, well, that's, there's nothing, no harm there.

Nannette:

that's why I thought you were gay. just Justine, tell us about

Christine:

one that I would go to, go into work on Monday, and everyone, Okay, Christine, tell us about your weekend, and I was like, so Brad, there's this guy, and he's like, Oh my god,

Nannette:

name. S

Christine:

are you that dumb?

Brad:

Wait, okay, there was a time where she dated like three guys who had the same name like in a row.

Christine:

Oh, I recycled names? Yes! Yes! She

Brad:

would use the same name and I'm, I'm pretty sure it was so she didn't say the wrong name.

Christine:

I almost choked on my coffee.

Brad:

This is new Greg. That's old Greg.

Christine:

Greg. Old

Brad:

Now, which Greg are we on now? This is Greg 3. 0. gay.

Christine:

I really, I

Brad:

people I

Christine:

Let's see, how many Cody's? How many?

Brad:

So it was like,

Christine:

I don't want to.

Brad:

guy and just

Nannette:

to.

Christine:

And I was the relationship girl too. So it was like I would meet a guy and just like so codependent and I would jump into a relationship three to six months later. I'm in another one and I just kept doing that. And yeah, I was like

Nannette:

That's exhausting.

Christine:

Yeah, it was. It was, but I never took the time to like sit with myself. It was just go, go, go like date. And then I was

Nannette:

So you didn't know yourself well enough to know what you wanted, so you were just, you were just keeping busy.

Christine:

Yep,

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