Ep. 78 - Friars, and Shadows, and Spirits, Oh My!

In this episode of the 'Mormon to Medium' podcast, Nannette and Brad recount Nanette’s week-long stay at a monastery in Malibu that’s more haunted than holy. From fighting curly hair frizz in the fog to negotiating room space with a ghostly friar (who’s apparently a rule-stickler), Nannette shares her paranormal misadventures. The duo discusses how Nannette 'lit up' some Palo Santo to send a ghost packing, and how the group's psychic powers turned the monastery into a live episode of 'Ghost Adventures'. Tune in for laughs, chills, and a guide on how to smoke out more than just incense!

Transcript

Nannette: 0:01

Welcome to the Mormon to medium podcast, where we'll talk about spirituality, the paranormal religion, and my journey going from Mormon to medium. I'm Nanette Wride. Thanks for listening. Now let's go have some fun.

Brad: 0:42

Welcome back. This is the Mormon to Medium podcast. I'm Brad and I'm here with Nanette and we are going to talk more about her experience at the Haunted Monastery that we mentioned briefly last week.

Nannette: 0:55

ha! So haunted!

Brad: 0:58

Well, and what's cool about this, if you didn't listen to last week's episode, you won't know this, but Nan actually just attended a week long retreat where she stayed at a monastery in California, um, full time, day, night, ate, slept, drank, everything there, right? Yes,

Nannette: 1:13

yes. We didn't leave. We were kind of stuck in the fog, so really didn't see much of the sun at all. This

Brad: 1:21

so we really didn't see much of the sun at all. Well, you drive to Malibu, California. Malibu is right on

Nannette: 1:33

you drive to Malibu, California and Malibu is right on the coast and it kind of sits in a pocket. So on one side of the mountain. Um, we're inland, it's super, super hot and then you go over, you know, the top of this small mountain, nothing like what Utah has got, but, and then you descend down into Malibu and it's just foggy and it's that, that fog that has little tiny bits of water in it, you know, do you know what I'm talking about?

Brad: 2:01

it's just a really wet

Nannette: 2:03

Really moist. Yeah, fog. My hair was like super curly. There's, yeah, it was a frizz ball the whole time I was there. There was no hope. But, um, this monastery, um, you actually, it's in a gated community. So you actually have a guard shack that you have that has like the arms that are down. You have to let them know that you're, you're there to go to the monastery. There are people, Um, movie stars and stuff that have homes down below the monastery. Um, but there's like gorgeous flowers everywhere and jungle like plants and like, it's just lush, just gorgeous. And then you get

Brad: 2:40

the monastery. Now, now, now, lush coming from someone who lives in the desert, so take that with a grain of

Nannette: 2:46

I'm no, I'm talking Hawaii lush, literally a lot of the plants look like they belonged in Hawaii, just gorgeous.

Brad: 2:53

That's fair.

Nannette: 2:54

And, and the flowers, just every single color and type of flower, um, there were even cactuses there that had flowers on them and just, it was just beautiful. And, and the monastery overlooks the coast. And so you just kind of look down on the. The town or city of Malibu and you see the coast and it was just beautiful. The grounds are beautiful. It had like a labyrinth that was on there. Um, but, but we stayed in the quarters that like the monks stay in. So it's just a, A couple of twin size beds and a sink in your room. And then you share a bathroom with the room next to you.

Brad: 3:32

Okay, so like a Jack and Jill.

Nannette: 3:33

yeah, at one time, at one point I got locked out of my bathroom. That was really fun.

Brad: 3:37

I had to go

Nannette: 3:39

The lady that I

Brad: 3:39

different building to go

Nannette: 3:41

I did, I had to go to a different building to go to the restroom, but the lady I shared it with, she didn't speak very good English and I was like, um, can you unlock the bathroom? She goes, Oh no. I'm so sorry. So sorry,

Brad: 3:51

no, I'm so

Nannette: 3:52

she was just petrified. Um, but you know, as with any place, there's comes a history and this, uh, monastery, it was, it's a Catholic monastery, by the way. Um, and it was built in 1942. So it's been there a minute, but, um, lots of pictures in the main area of these friars and different fathers and people that are there. And I don't. Really understand. I didn't have the guts. Imagine this. I didn't have the guts to go talk to a monk and be like, so why are you in white and he's in brown and he's in black and white and

Brad: 4:30

Oh, you totally should have

Nannette: 4:31

just know because they were like sitting at a table together and they're kind of keeping to themselves. And some of them were, you know, Being silent and like, and some of the people that attended the retreat were even because they do different things people can, you know, like there were a meetings going on that were coming and going. There were people that were doing retreats and it was a silent retreat or there were other ones that were just like a women's retreat or whatever. Very cool place to hold a retreat.

Brad: 4:59

So, it's, it's essentially like a convention center, but it's a monastery.

Nannette: 5:03

Yeah. So half of it, um, is kind of like a convention center, um, but everyone eats in the cafeteria, including the monks that actually live there.

Brad: 5:11

Okay.

Nannette: 5:12

Um, so, and, and when we saw the monks, it was when, when it was mealtime, I, I didn't see them like walking around or anything like that, but the grounds were gorgeous. And um,

Brad: 5:22

Every

Nannette: 5:24

was like dedicated to, it was kind of like a mausoleum kind of like a lot of dead, um, people's names and their names. You know, birthdates and death dates and, you know, sayings for them and everywhere it was everywhere. It's like they kind of celebrate death and I'm not really sure

Brad: 5:42

like a, was it a cemetery?

Nannette: 5:44

I don't think it was a cemetery. It was literally all around this monastery in every garden area. They had little waterfalls and like little angels and things all over the place with different people's names and benches for different fathers.

Brad: 5:59

and

Nannette: 6:01

It was really interesting, but The, the energy, um, it was good, but a little heavy. Does that make sense? So yeah,

Brad: 6:11

Yes. And I didn't really

Nannette: 6:15

Yeah. And, and I didn't really understand that much. Um, the guy that usually runs the place was actually out of town. And so we didn't have a lot of, um, interaction with people other than our group, at least for the first five days.

Brad: 6:30

Right.

Nannette: 6:31

There wasn't a whole lot of interaction. I mean, I would talk to the cooks because they would stand out and watch everybody, you know, dish up and everything. Like they had everything measured, but they fed us well, like our lunches look like a dinner. And I'm just like, I've never eaten this much food in my life. And everybody in our group, they were just like, I don't eat like this either. But I'm hungry and I'm telling you, energy work makes you hungry. You burn the calories doing energy work. You really, really do. So, um, we all allowed ourselves to gain a little bit of a pooch while we were there. Cause the food was so good, but the, the feeling there was, um, Really different, really different, very quiet. I loved, I loved the silence. I would get my coffee in the morning and go and sit in the gardens and I would watch the hummingbirds and the different birds and the lizards and all the things, you know, and just sit there with so much gratitude. And it's exactly what I needed after, you know, the hearing and all the things. It's kind of what brought me to my balance. Um, it was all the balances I got there, but also the balance of being silent and being able to be with my own thoughts and, and being able to heal like that. But, oh my goodness, my first night there, um, I saw a friar in a brown, I don't know what you call them, robe with, with a belt around his waist. And, um,

Brad: 7:51

tubbin

Nannette: 7:51

yeah, right.

Brad: 7:52

wish

Nannette: 7:52

hot tub there. I wish I took my swimsuit just in case, but no. Um, but he was standing at the end of my bed and I was like, Oh hell no. Like this is not happening.

Brad: 8:02

Now, wait a minute. When you say you saw a friar standing at the end of your bed, is this an ethereal

Nannette: 8:07

No, it's with my human eyes. Yeah, he was, he wasn't physical. He was a spirit standing

Brad: 8:13

I'm wanting to clarify. So when you say you see this Friar standing at the end of your bed, is he an ethereal being? Is he, is he human? Is he a spirit? What's going on?

Nannette: 8:22

He's a spirit and he's standing there. And so, and

Brad: 8:26

And you knew that right off.

Nannette: 8:28

yeah, but I'm seeing him with my human eyes, not my spiritual eyes. Okay. So it's not, it's not like I have to close my eyes and I can feel him there or whatever. Like I'm fricking looking at him with my human eyes and I'm like, Oh hell no. I'm not going to, I'm not going to stay here for a whole entire week and have this guy in my room with me. That's just creepy. I won't be able to sleep. There's just no way. And the thing, you The catch 22 was you're not supposed to burn incense or sage or anything like that. And they have like these, they ask you to pray over the person that's going to be in the room next or, you know, when you strip the bed and

Brad: 9:05

Oh, like the, the person who will stay there

Nannette: 9:07

that's coming next and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like thinking,

Brad: 9:10

make this my space. And

Nannette: 9:12

I gotta, I gotta make this my space and um, so I just started to tell him like we often do. Um, you know, I'm here to rest. I'm here to learn. I need you to please leave and let me do that. And um, he's still staring there

Brad: 9:27

He's like, no bitch, this is my room.

Nannette: 9:29

so I pulled out my Palo Santo and I lit the joint up. I have my window open. And hopefully no one,

Brad: 9:34

Wait a minute, did you just say I broke out my palo santo and lit the joint up? Last time I, I've never heard of anyone refer to palo santo as a joint.

Nannette: 9:46

The joint was my room.

Brad: 9:49

I was really confused for a minute. I'm like, wait a minute. I sent Nan on a retreat to California and now she's a stoner. What the hell?

Nannette: 9:57

never, never, never did. When you live my life, you don't need drugs.

Brad: 10:00

Right?

Nannette: 10:02

No, but I did that. And then I slept,

Brad: 10:06

So you, you lit your Palo Santo and smoked the, smoked the monster out. Yeah,

Nannette: 10:10

yeah, he wasn't even a monster. He's just standing there, which, and it was just creepy. And,

Brad: 10:15

it was just creepy,

Nannette: 10:16

he, he left, I kept my window open and, um, and I slept fine that night and the following night.

Brad: 10:22

night. Well, he, he needed an exit for them, right? When

Nannette: 10:27

he, I, he needed an exit for them, right? When you're clearing a room, there has to be an exit. So I had them exit out the window. Um,

Brad: 10:35

though,

Nannette: 10:36

the third night though, um, it's really weird. Yeah. I got up and I needed to turn the light on but it's across the room over by like the, the building. The sink and stuff. And so as I was walking over there, it was maybe five or six feet away from my bed. I walked five or six feet and then all of a sudden someone is standing right there and I stopped dead in my tracks. I'm looking right at them and it's like this solid dark thing standing there and I went, Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Out loud. And then I realized what I had just done. And I was like, Oh, hell no. And then it disappeared. Like a bit. It was like all really super fast, but it like shocked me because I was half asleep. Right. And I'm just like, I'm like, Oh, hell no. Get out. But um, that, that was two things that happened just in my room. my friend, um, she had told me that she had experienced some heavy energy and she unbeknownst to me, all the people in my group are extremely gifted. Like I am, I'm kind of the one that spilled the beans about being in a psychic medium and being super, sensitive to energies and stuff. And then they all started kind of speaking up and they all had the same thing. Um, but at one point me and one of the girls in my class were walking down the hall by the office and they have like all these pictures of all the friars and fathers and stuff. And I Told you. And some were dated back to the, to 1940

Brad: 12:06

ish 1950s

Nannette: 12:09

And, um,

Brad: 12:10

So like when they opened the monastery.

Nannette: 12:12

yeah. And there's this group of fathers sitting there and there's one in the front and he was the dude at the end of my bed. And I pointed right to him and the girl next to me, I'm like, that's, that's, And she goes, that's the one I've seen. And I'm like, stop it. And she's like, no, that's, I have full body chills right now.

Brad: 12:31

That's

Nannette: 12:32

one I saw too. And I'm like, holy crap. I'm like, so we saw the same fryer and she's like, yeah, she's just like, what feeling did you get? And I said, it was almost like a, you're going to do things my way. These are the rules. You have to do it this

Brad: 12:44

do it this way. And then you go ahead and break

Nannette: 12:46

up Palo Santo, I know, which is probably why I came back.

Brad: 12:49

you came back. He's like, damn it Nan,

Nannette: 12:52

Yeah. Yeah.

Brad: 12:53

we talked about this. I

Nannette: 12:54

I know, but it doesn't stop there. So, remember the staircase where I hurt my ankle and my foot that we were climbing up? Yeah. So Um, it's in the top level where the classroom is that we were headed and next to the classroom, you go down the hall, maybe eight, nine, 10 feet, something like that. And on the right hand side is an quote unquote meditation room. Well, as soon as I walked into the hallway to go to our new room, the energy was like stifling heavy, like super heavy. And one of the girls in our group started to have a panic attack, like, like claustrophobic. I'm freaking my shit out panic attack. And so she had to go. Like outside and like breathe for a minute and our teacher is like, I'm not feeling anything. Like what's, what's the problem? And everybody else in our class was like, no, we're feeling it too. We're just not, we're not feeling claustrophobic. And so we opened up windows and cleared the place. And, um, yeah, A couple of people moved air through the place and stuff, and this was just our classroom, our new classroom. And, um, so that got all cleared out, but we had to walk down the hall past the meditation room. And then we had to turn left and then keep going down the hall just to go to the bathroom

Brad: 14:09

Got it. So you're walking past this

Nannette: 14:11

meditation

Brad: 14:12

all day long, essentially.

Nannette: 14:13

So the meditation room, the very first time I have to go to the restroom, the meditation room, I get. Like two feet away from the door and my, I get filo erection everywhere, including on my scalp, like everywhere. And I'm like, I do not like this feeling. I do not like this room. And, um, everybody's like, Oh my gosh, I felt that too. And, the one that had the claustrophobic feeling, she was like, she was like, no, we need to shut that door. Like, she's like, whatever was in this room, I think went over there to that room. And I'm like, there's something not good in that room. And our, our teacher walks in there and he's like, I don't feel anything. And everybody else was like, no, no, no, no, no. We are all feeling it. So there were seven of us and everybody's feeling it.

Brad: 14:55

So

Nannette: 14:56

shut the door and you literally could still feel it as you pass by the door. Um, everybody would get phyloerection as they went past the door. Um, really weird, really weird. Like you almost wanted to think twice about going down this really steep 40 stairs to go to a different building to a different bathroom.

Brad: 15:14

Did you guys, do you think, create kind of a group think? That like, well one person got freaked out and then you shared it and everyone was freaked

Nannette: 15:21

No, because everybody was kind of being quiet about it. Kind of doing it. I just knew about the panic attack because I'm friends with the person,

Brad: 15:28

But everybody

Nannette: 15:29

but everybody was kind of being quiet. And then once one person spoke up, everybody else was like, yeah, I did this or I felt this or it wasn't a group thing at all. It was individual by themselves and no one wanted to go past that room. So we're, we were just like, no, we'll just keep the door shut. Whatever's in there needs to stay in there. And we're just not even going to go because at one point our teacher was like, yeah, we could just go into the meditation room and everybody's like, no, we are not going in there. No, there's some bad juju in there. So it was just really heavy. Very, it felt very strict, very, um, forceful. The energy felt very forceful. Um, Very, very interesting, but again, I don't know, I don't know the history enough to be able to be like, so

Brad: 16:15

so. I don't know. Do

Nannette: 16:15

do you guys want to move on or you want to hang out

Brad: 16:17

want to hang out?

Nannette: 16:19

no, that was not my cup of tea.

Brad: 16:21

just like, I'm going to stay out of this one, I just want to be here in peace. I

Nannette: 16:25

am here to be in peace and to learn. Yeah.

Brad: 16:27

learn. That makes

Nannette: 16:28

Definitely haunted place though. So,

Brad: 16:30

place though, so. How cool. How cool. Do you know, I would guess that a lot of places like that do experience a lot of, a lot of uh, paranormal activity.

Nannette: 16:43

Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. I think there's a lot of people with some heavy burdens that go to places like that to heal. And so they probably offload a lot of negative energy in places like that. Um, I know I did.

Brad: 16:57

some at the beach on the days that we went to

Nannette: 17:01

I did, I really did. And some at the beach on the days that we went to the beach, but yeah, really cool experience though. And again, energy work is pretty awesome. It's cool to see people that do energy work and how they stepped into their spiritual selves. Like no one was super hyper religious, you know, there, there was even a Mormon in our group and she, It wasn't really a topic of discussion of religion. It was just, yeah, I'm a Mormon. Oh yeah. I'm this, or everybody else was like, yeah, I used to be Mormon or whatever, but everyone was spiritual.

Brad: 17:38

Were they okay saying that they were a Mormon?

Nannette: 17:40

Yeah, apparently,

Brad: 17:41

they're not a very devout Mormon anymore then.

Nannette: 17:44

no, actually she was a convert of five years ago. So

Brad: 17:49

Because usually, you know, the people who are out there now are like crazy about you can't say Mormon.

Nannette: 17:54

no, I, I think that the group I was with was not tied about anything, but they all were super spiritual.

Brad: 18:00

Yeah. So why do you think it is that people who do energy work are drawn to that spiritual side? Or do you think that people who are spiritual are drawn to energy work? What comes first? The chicken or the egg, man?

Nannette: 18:11

don't think that there is a one or the other, everybody has a different path. Right. So I think some people are just born into, you know, energy work and they just know it. Um, one of the people in my class has been doing actual energy work since he was 12 years old. So like took, took touch for health at 12 years old.

Brad: 18:32

his family obviously

Nannette: 18:33

took it with his mom and he's been doing Touch for Health energy work since he was 12 years old. He was balancing his friends.

Brad: 18:41

How cool is that?

Nannette: 18:42

It's so cool. It's, it's so, so, so cool. And so he's, he's super, super powerful. Um, that energy movement is really, really good. Cause he's been doing it his whole life. He doesn't know anything different, but like if he hurt himself, he'd go to his mom and be like, mom, I hurt myself. And she'd be like, Go figure it out, go balance it

Brad: 19:02

of, oh

Nannette: 19:03

instead of, Oh, you poor thing. Let me do it. I mean, he didn't get that. It was, you know how to balance it, go and do it type of thing all the time. So I mean, I,

Brad: 19:12

She helped teach him some, some self, uh, some self reliability.

Nannette: 19:17

yeah, self responsibility of healing and that's what touch for health is. Um, but he learned how to heal himself and he learned how to, and now he's really, really great healer. His main thing though, is he loves to work with animals. He's an animal communicator. So very, very cool. Very cool. Very powerful. I guess he does, um, champion horses or, you know, horses that, um, train and stuff and the riders. So that they're one, they ride as

Brad: 19:45

Okay. Okay. So, so like, like, uh, horse racing, like jockeys and, and horses, like Kentucky Derby type stuff.

Nannette: 19:54

Well that, well, and also people that, you know, show horses.

Brad: 19:57

Okay. Okay.

Nannette: 19:58

kind of

Brad: 19:59

I gotcha. Hmm. That's very

Nannette: 20:01

I mean, there's, there's a niche for everything cause everything's energy.

Brad: 20:05

Hmm.

Nannette: 20:06

it's just a matter of finding what the niche is, but everybody needs this. Everyone, if you have muscles and you have energy, you need this work. The end. Hey,

Brad: 20:17

Nan.

Nannette: 20:20

thank you for joining us. Thanks for taking your time to listen to us. If you have any questions or you have topics that you would like us to address, please reach out to us on info@themormontomediumpodcast.Com and we will see you next time.

Brad: 20:33

on the other side of the veil.